2016 Postmortem

JI7

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16. you said the thing about populist and outsider. but Johnson and Portman doing much better goes

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Why did Hillary Clinton lose the GE? [View all] BainsBane Nov 2016 OP

Comey was the thing that turned what was in her favor. but i think if there was a more active JI7 Nov 2016 #1

I should add that BainsBane Nov 2016 #3

No more room. Nt BainsBane Nov 2016 #4

It falls under "Hillary too flawed" FBaggins Nov 2016 #31

I don't think there was any one thing, as you said mvd Nov 2016 #9

that doesn't explain anti free trade candidates like Stickland and Feingold losing JI7 Nov 2016 #10

I think it may have been a coattail effect. Would have done better mvd Nov 2016 #12

no, Johnson and Portman got more votes than Trump. JI7 Nov 2016 #13

Again I say if Clinton did better, our candidates would have mvd Nov 2016 #14

you said the thing about populist and outsider. but Johnson and Portman doing much better goes JI7 Nov 2016 #16

Not really mvd Nov 2016 #17

Adding in mvd Nov 2016 #20

True, but arguing that the failure to denounce free trade BainsBane Nov 2016 #19

Also you could say pointing to a couple candidates doesn't tell the whole story either mvd Nov 2016 #22

all three of the blue states that flipped were crippled by NAFTA.... those voters didn't like her putitinD Nov 2016 #25

I also think Comey alone could have done it all. Well, him and the press. LisaL Nov 2016 #18

Here is what I DON'T understand RandySF Nov 2016 #2

I think that's an issue of turn out BainsBane Nov 2016 #5

It was like the scene in Gladiator where the tigers start leaping out of the ground. ucrdem Nov 2016 #6

Sadly, this is much bigger than Hillary. Hillary can't be used to explain away a Republican- Trust Buster Nov 2016 #7

Do any of the options above help you explain that? BainsBane Nov 2016 #8

It's never just one thing but an accumulative buildup of many things. Serial low voter turnout Trust Buster Nov 2016 #11

I can't disagree with that. BainsBane Nov 2016 #21

The Dems & The Campaign Ran Against Trump vs The Repug Party.... global1 Nov 2016 #24

It would have breaked convention but exboyfil Nov 2016 #34

All off the above. dogman Nov 2016 #15

Too flawed. She's a woman and she had the temerity to run for president? WTF was she thinking! tandem5 Nov 2016 #23

It's possible to believe there was more than one reason for the loss. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #26

Oftentimes things have multiple causes, acting synergistically. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #27

I agree BainsBane Nov 2016 #28

The Dems could have ran FDR .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #29

Seven out of ten apply, IMHO. BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #30

She didn't get enough votes in a few swing states. lovemydog Nov 2016 #32

The wrong people voted for her Freddie Nov 2016 #33

I don't believe she lost the GE DFW Nov 2016 #35

Can't pick one of those because... Mike Nelson Nov 2016 #36

I think it was a combination of factors but the balance due Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #37

#1, #2 and #5. baldguy Nov 2016 #38

I went with Comey, but he acted out of misogyny. boston bean Nov 2016 #39

Maybe partially due to the uneven recovery many a good man Nov 2016 #40

Uninformed idiots that thought Hillary was too flawed. nt LexVegas Nov 2016 #41

Name calling rather than logically explaining your position for why I & others are wrong think Nov 2016 #43

Better you try to explain why Clinton was flawed. baldguy Nov 2016 #45

WaPo: "Hillary Clinton voters see lots of flaws in their candidate" think Nov 2016 #46

BZZZZZT! You lose. baldguy Nov 2016 #48

60% airtime/media - some mix of remaining 40% several factors underpants Nov 2016 #42

The Electoral College treestar Nov 2016 #44

Mostly we allow degenerates in flyover states to vote. AngryAmish Nov 2016 #47

I'm in a flyover state BainsBane Nov 2016 #49