2016 Postmortem

mcar

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10. Anyone who believed what Trump was saying

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:45 PM

Dec 2016

WRT jobs or anything else, is delusional.

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"Then I saw Donald Trump, and he got out there and showed he was serious about keeping jobs" [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

Good analysis cilla4progress Dec 2016 #1

NAFTA was passed by a republican Congress and left for incoming Pres Clinton TheDebbieDee Dec 2016 #37

I also heard Thomas Friedman cilla4progress Dec 2016 #38

The writer needed to interview me and lots of people like me who weren't moved by Trump.. JHan Dec 2016 #2

Were you someone who voted for Obama twice and then Trump this past November? EL34x4 Dec 2016 #20

Yes whole year they've been asking why... JHan Dec 2016 #23

But, without the TPP China is free to take over even more of our trade... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #3

China and Russia...it'll create a void, both countries will scoop it up. JHan Dec 2016 #5

In terms of trade the 1,000,000 dollar question is... nycbos Dec 2016 #4

Ask Germany how they do it realmirage Dec 2016 #6

What makes Germany successful runs counter to everything Trump proposes. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17

Google the percentage of Germans realmirage Dec 2016 #18

Read again what I wrote. And do some research on the German economy. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #21

Yep.. JHan Dec 2016 #25

It seems simple answers for complex problems are all the rage. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #28

I think it's motivated reasoning: we choose the information that fits in with our biases. JHan Dec 2016 #30

That's certainly a factor, as well. People believe what they want to believe. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #31

I read it. Here's the data you should consider realmirage Dec 2016 #33

You're not addressing the nature of those manufacturing jobs vs. ours. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #34

You can't argue against the facts I just gave you realmirage Dec 2016 #35

Your data has zero context. You're ignoring the nature of those jobs. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #36

Smoot-Hawley is overblown portlander23 Dec 2016 #9

Of course trade protectionism wasn't the cause. nycbos Dec 2016 #13

It certainly spawned retaliation portlander23 Dec 2016 #15

This is the message of our future if we want to survive realmirage Dec 2016 #7

He didn't move to Clinton's left. He went populist- andym Dec 2016 #8

NAFTA was a right-wing idea portlander23 Dec 2016 #14

Incorrect-- Free trade is strongly associated with FDR (progressive) and then both parties andym Dec 2016 #19

Complete nonsense portlander23 Dec 2016 #22

You obviously didn't read the article or much else on the history of free trade andym Dec 2016 #32

Anyone who believed what Trump was saying mcar Dec 2016 #10

The wake-up call here ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #11

I know he lost me at "rhetorical left" anyway ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #40

Not Your Grandmothers Wisconsin elleng Dec 2016 #12

Suggestion: you might want to put quotation marks around your thread title. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #16

An earlier article about Rebecca Theoni... SidDithers Dec 2016 #24

No words for this kind of idiocy mcar Dec 2016 #29

Wow. Democracy is dead. "He explains it in layman's terms." lostnfound Dec 2016 #41

I remember the many TPP threads here. mia Dec 2016 #26

Idiots MFM008 Dec 2016 #27

Nancy will take care of it. coco22 Dec 2016 #39