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2016 Postmortem

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babylonsister

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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:41 PM Feb 2013

Andrew Sullivan: The GOP’s Real Problem [View all]

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/02/08/the-gops-real-problem/

The GOP’s Real Problem
Feb 8 2013 @ 5:01pm


President Bush Holds News Conference


A reader at TPM puts his finger on it:

Neither side in this putative civil war has been willing to reckon honestly with the consequences of the Bush administration for the country (substantively) or the Republican Party (politically). Both do their best to present their views to the public as if the last Republican President had never existed. This has left both groups of activists somewhat unmoored; in politics, you talk ideology and principles when you can’t brag about accomplishments, because voters are a lot better at relating the latter to their own lives.

Since neither the Tea Party types or the big donors and the campaign operatives working for them are thinking of repudiating a Republican administration that lost two wars and wrecked the economy, they are left to air their differences on issues no one besides campaign junkies cares about. The self-styled conservatives complain that Rove and his people say mean things about them; the moneybags wing is dedicated to recruiting candidates who will avoid gaffes. Big deal.


This was also clear in the Hagel hearings. When you have a party that hasn’t been able to repudiate the worst administration in modern times, and actually still attempt to hail it as some kind of achievement with respect to Iraq or Afghanistan or the debt, you cannot persuade anyone you have changed, or want to change.

Someone in the GOP needs to take Bush-Cheney apart, to show how they created the debt crisis we are in, by throwing away a surplus on unaffordable tax cuts, launching two unfunded wars, and one new unfunded entitlement. They need to take on the war crimes that has deeply undermined the soul of the United States. They need to note the catastrophic negligence that gave us the worst national security lapse since Pearl Harbor (9/11) despite being warned explicitly in advance, accept weak and false intelligence to launch a war they were too incompetent to fight or win, sat back as one of the worst hurricanes all but took out a major city, and was so negligent in bank regulation that we ended up with Lehman and all that subsequently took place.

These were not minor errors. They were catastrophic misjudgments which took an era of peace, surplus and prosperity and replaced it with a dystopia of massive debt, a lawless executive branch, two unwinnable wars, and a record of war crimes that had their source in the very Oval Office.

When will the Republicans hold themselves accountable for the things that have persuaded so many that this bunch of fanatics and deniers are unfit for government? When will they speak of Bush and Cheney and repudiate them?
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repudiate???The republicans are going to nominate Jeb unless he chickes out because graham4anything Feb 2013 #1
He might already have... babylonsister Feb 2013 #2
I disagree. jerseyjack Feb 2013 #3
When will they finally realize that Bush and Cheney didn't EC Feb 2013 #4
So tell me what legislation 'the others' are writing for the rethugs? babylonsister Feb 2013 #5
"The others" are ALEC truebluegreen Feb 2013 #8
But what kind of power are they searching for by babylonsister Feb 2013 #10
Bush and Cheney also had a very successful Presidency. A Simple Game Feb 2013 #9
Exactly, Bush enriched all his cronies, he knew exactly what he was doing. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #13
I'm not sure I want to give Bush any credit, but yes someone knew what they were doing. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2013 #14
they have much bigger problems than that Trascoli Feb 2013 #6
Welcome to DU, Trascoli! calimary Feb 2013 #15
The answer is Cha Feb 2013 #7
Absolutely Cosmocat Feb 2013 #18
Yes, Andrew Sullivan, when will those Republicans who supported our war in Iraq be repudiated? MNBrewer Feb 2013 #11
Wow. He grew up...why can't everyone? NT babylonsister Feb 2013 #12
Just because he became as enthusiastic in his support of Obama as he had been for Bush MNBrewer Feb 2013 #16
Bullshit. You can state that all day long, but you are wrong. babylonsister Feb 2013 #17
It's in the middle ground. He should always and forever be taken with a grain of salt not only Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #19
To quote Sullivan about himself "I will not and should not forgive" MNBrewer Feb 2013 #20
I'll "allow" him to progress all he wants MNBrewer Feb 2013 #21
He still considers himself a "proud Reaganite and Thatcherite." tblue37 Feb 2013 #23
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. MNBrewer Feb 2013 #24
Hey, you should warn people before you post photos of W! The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #22
Bush is personally under the bus quaker bill Feb 2013 #25
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