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JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
16. That response makes no sense to me.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:54 PM
Aug 2014

The "Dream Act" was rejected by Congress and effectively created by executive order in directing the execution of existing immigration law. Technically it was legal, but it was nonetheless a direct circumvention of the will of Congress.

As to your "understanding of executive powers, mine is rooted in the Constitution," even though you are willing to descrive Obama's actions as "governing by executive order," which most certainly is not in the constitution.

Article 2, Section 3 reads in part: "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,"

So when the law as passed by Congress says that the employer mandate shall take effect in 2014 and Obama declares on his own authority that it be delayed until 2016, is he “taking Care that the Laws are being faithfully executed?”

When the law as passed by Congress says that Medicare Advantage funding is cut by $200 billion in the ACA and Obama declares on his own authority that that cut be cancelled, is he “taking Care that the Laws are being faithfully executed?”

"...my opposition to an act/action does not delegitimize the act/action." When I said you would be screaming bloody murder, I did not mean you would dislike it, I meant you would be claiming it was illegal, and my selection of example was deliberate because when Bush made such an executive order Democrats did scream bloody murder about the illegality of the order and about the "imperial overreach" involved in him making it.

We are not talking about preferences, likes or dislikes. For what it's worth, I too, like the orders being issued by Obama, but I cannot and will not defend the process because there will not always be a Democratic president making orders which I like. Sooner or later there will be a Republican president issuing orders which I dislike. He will cite the precedent set by Obama and you and I will be rendered powerless to object.

I'm calling you... Wait Wut Aug 2014 #1
I wish you had been at my house Sunday JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #3
Was their reaction... sheshe2 Aug 2014 #2
No! Their reaction was more ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #4
OMG! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #5
^^^^^^^ LiberalElite Aug 2014 #18
If I may ask; how long afterwards did the party last before excuses started to flow in? -- n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #14
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #15
Amazing how blind they are to cognitive dissonance of their positions. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #6
Not only that ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #7
Good for you, 1SBM! brer cat Aug 2014 #8
I've found good beer from a tap ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #9
I know you mean well, JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #10
What abrogation of the Constitution? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #11
Oh, come on... JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #12
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #13
That response makes no sense to me. JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #16
Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #17
Cruz: "A breath of fresh air???" ailsagirl Aug 2014 #19
As fresh as fumes from glue Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2014 #20
Yes ailsagirl Aug 2014 #22
Good Job! But lunatica Aug 2014 #21
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