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karynnj

(59,549 posts)
12. I get MBS's point and yours
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:36 AM
Oct 2014

Clinton could have made the same strong case without making it about Obama. For instances, he could have spoken like he did in 2012, when Obama was on the ticket. He could have moved away from Obama himself to defending what Obama and the Democrats did on the economy and on health care.

Arkansas is one of the states that finally did move to expand Medicaid. This means that many people who never had health insurance have it now. Arkansas is an extremely poor state - so this likely was a bigger deal there than in states where fewer people are below that threshold.

As to the economy - we all have seen the charts on unemployment and what Obama has done - in spite of the Republicans - is remarkable. He could actually have argued, that just like he did, Obama greatly improved the economic situation from where it was when he entered office.

Instead, this looks like another attempt to distance Clinton from Obama. If HRC had not distanced herself on fp - even giving the Republicans a gift when she suggested that not doing more in Syria led to ISIS - I don't think I would have had any sensitivity here. In addition, this plays into the view that to the Clintons, loyalty is extremely important, but it is defined in only one direction -- to them. I doubt the Clintons would have been happy with a cabinet member who did this to Bill while he was still in office.

Hello World mmcgrath408 Oct 2014 #1
Welcome to DU!!! gopiscrap Oct 2014 #2
Hello and welcome to DU! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2014 #3
Welcome to DU. Aristus Oct 2014 #17
Bill does it again DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #4
Yeah MBS Oct 2014 #6
I guess it was predictable that the Clintons would stay behind Obama just until his popularity karynnj Oct 2014 #10
" " " " " " MBS Oct 2014 #14
I didn't get that take from what he said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #9
I get MBS's point and yours karynnj Oct 2014 #12
yup, agree with this, too. n/t MBS Oct 2014 #15
Good points. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #16
After reading your two very long posts, I see that you fail to get Clinton's point. Beacool Oct 2014 #22
and what pray tell, emboldens that? DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #23
Your reading comprehension is lacking karynnj Oct 2014 #25
Naaah, let's just pretend that Obama is popular in AR and that Pryor is not going to lose. Beacool Oct 2014 #21
My thought exactly! peace13 Oct 2014 #26
Any Democrat who votes how Republicans tell him or her to vote should not be allowed to vote. merrily Oct 2014 #5
So what makes Obama "kryptonite?" RussBLib Oct 2014 #7
Those running away seem to feel ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #11
exactly DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #24
And that word that dare not be said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #27
exactly DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #28
I've been stumped, too MBS Oct 2014 #13
Interesting difference between ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #8
Interesting indeed. Thanks. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #18
Or maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #19
Naw, brother. You and I both know what the deal is. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #20
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