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DanTex

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114. This is why I despair at Bernie being the candidate.

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Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:49 AM

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This is why I despair at HRC being the candidate [View all] Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 OP

Well treated workers are an asset to a business. They are people of course, but also an asset uppityperson Jul 2015 #1

"Asset" may refer to people metaphoricaly Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #3

Higher wages and training does. uppityperson Jul 2015 #7

Certainly Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #14

Are you really advocating for lower wages, benefits, training? uppityperson Jul 2015 #21

No, I am discussing what happens when you refer to and think of Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #27

Here's the transcript of her speech. While there are things to criticize her for, this is not one of uppityperson Jul 2015 #30

Apart from the phrasing kenfrequed Jul 2015 #57

"Tax credits are probably one of the worst ways to stimulate growth." Scuba Jul 2015 #109

Accelerated depreciation is a tax credit kenfrequed Jul 2015 #111

I'm wondering if the tax credit would apply only to U.S. citizens dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #67

This point of view PATRICK Jul 2015 #72

Apprenticeship tax credit for every worker they train and hire. That is exactly what the CETA jwirr Jul 2015 #83

Additionally kenfrequed Jul 2015 #110

Correct. I did not work when it was called CETA. jwirr Jul 2015 #112

And what about the "assets" that don't have jobs? erronis Jul 2015 #86

Don't try to put words into my mouth as you will only fail. Do you agree or disagree with uppityperson Jul 2015 #87

The primaries will determine the candidate still_one Jul 2015 #2

I agree. I am first and foremost a CITIZEN... ms liberty Jul 2015 #4

Your boss either sees you as an EXPENSE, or an ASSET. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #5

I see it that way also. Treat your employees well and they are an asset to the business uppityperson Jul 2015 #6

Exactly ... I know a guy who sees employees as "expenses" to be managed DOWN ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #11

Bernie supporters leftynyc Jul 2015 #9

Some of them start with a conclusion, and then work backwards. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #12

True enough leftynyc Jul 2015 #20

I've honestly just stopped coming to the board. musicblind Jul 2015 #99

I'm very stubborn leftynyc Jul 2015 #108

I think it's more important to look at her record and see what she has stood and fought for Cal33 Jul 2015 #80

I don't see anything in this leftynyc Jul 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 Jul 2015 #90

Having been a boss Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #13

You were a "boss"?? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #16

You call yourself a "boss" yet have trouble discussing economics and assets, the humanity of it? uppityperson Jul 2015 #22

Yes, I do. Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #26

I do not dare say what I am thinking about the use of assets because I will get targeted. But jwirr Jul 2015 #84

I owned my own business and was a Director Sales and Marketing before that... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #36

Again, Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #71

Question. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #79

I was in the position to hire and fire for about five years. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #88

I have--and if you use the term in a fitrep or evaluation, it can get your "assets" MADem Jul 2015 #82

Which is why someone else needs to counterbalance that view. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32

You're looking for nuance on a site that only allows 140 characters? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #8

Yes, and just like other "assets" they can be bought and sold Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #10

Nothing can stop employers from firing employees if... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19

Notice that in a reponse to me ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #25

Um, now I know you are being utterly disingenious Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #31

So you mean that we shouldn't base this discussion on just one word? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #37

Brilliant! AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #39

To be fair ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #55

I'm old enough to remember bvf Jul 2015 #15

Only smart business owners see employees as assets. MineralMan Jul 2015 #17

Yes, asset has several meanings. antiquie Jul 2015 #38

What you say is true, of course. MineralMan Jul 2015 #43

That is why large companies have a "Human Reassures Department" awake Jul 2015 #18

Feel The Bern ! loveallserveall Jul 2015 #23

This doesn't seem to square with "you didn't build that". cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #24

she's not even technically correct from the business/accounting point of view Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #28

HILLARY CLINTON: FIGHTING FOR AMERICA’S WORKERS...just a few excepts.. Sancho Jul 2015 #49

Hillary at the ribbon cutting on the 22nd Tata outsourcing office opened in the USA Fumesucker Jul 2015 #74

Sorry but that is how you must speak to business Gman Jul 2015 #29

and her business experience is...? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #33

Excerpt from National First Ladies Library Sancho Jul 2015 #46

There you go Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #52

first I've read that type of spew. How did the SOS turn the position into a disaster? Sunlei Jul 2015 #48

Check out Libya lately? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #53

lol, ok I see you blame that wicked woman for all global problems. Sunlei Jul 2015 #62

Nope Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #66

How about you first list the actual detail of what that wicked woman did. Sunlei Jul 2015 #70

Orchestrating the overthrow of the Libyan government Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #73

Any CEO who made sure workers got better pay and training would be fired, with cause? uppityperson Jul 2015 #60

Under today's laws? Yes! Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #68

She was an exceptional Secretary of State and bashing her time as SOS is a right wing meme. musicblind Jul 2015 #100

What exactly was exceptional about her tenure? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #106

You're the government. You don't need to say "Mother, may I?". jeff47 Jul 2015 #34

that has nothing to do with oligarchs JI7 Jul 2015 #35

If the Corp gets a huge tax break udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #40

Wow...Bernie is the one who has spouted economics for 30 years - NOT social justice! Sancho Jul 2015 #41

I don't read Hillary's PAC propaganda.. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #47

You can always look at the links yourself... Sancho Jul 2015 #50

Right now, there are serious faults with Clinton London Lover Man Jul 2015 #51

She voted for a war Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #69

Not good. If she considers us proles "assets" then she's in the wrong mindset. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #42

excuse me, what is a proles? Sunlei Jul 2015 #59

prole is short for proletariat. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #105

Is that like being just another number? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #44

It is to me Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #64

People were ok when Henry Ford said similar, and raised his workers wages. Sunlei Jul 2015 #45

Slaves were considered assets... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #54

And the Nazis called themselves Socialists. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #56

Are you serious? I mean, really. Are you serious? Number23 Jul 2015 #89

Wall Street was founded as a slave market. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #91

"It might come as a shock to you" That someone is equating Hillary's comment with slavery??! Number23 Jul 2015 #94

Just watch. musicblind Jul 2015 #102

"we'll just be sitting in the back of the room shaking our heads at these children." Number23 Jul 2015 #104

So the only reason for higher pay is to reap higher profits. Kablooie Jul 2015 #58

"Workers are assets" actually shows WHO she is talking to......She is talking TO the oligarchs..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #61

The oligarchs are suddenly going to see reason? Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #63

Wow. really telling as to what she thinks about us proles. kath Jul 2015 #65

That's it? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #75

Oh, would you like the long list? Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #76

I just didn't realize that "asset" was a four-letter word Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #78

I've been called an "Ass" but I disagree with the term. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #77

ASSET is a positive concept and construct, and it can refer to humans. MADem Jul 2015 #81

Or property. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #92

Yes. Person, or thing. As the definition I provided describes. MADem Jul 2015 #97

Good grief.. its like saying your spouse is an asset. DCBob Jul 2015 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #95

.... ronnykmarshall Jul 2015 #96

............... MADem Jul 2015 #98

I love her! n/t tazkcmo Jul 2015 #103

I feel bad for any 'Asset' that she feels 'lacks utility' to her HFRN Jul 2015 #101

Hey, how neat. A human being. in Despair Capn Sunshine Jul 2015 #107

Where is the language of the "oligarchs?" NCTraveler Jul 2015 #113

This is why I despair at Bernie being the candidate. DanTex Jul 2015 #114

He has a much greater chance of winning with HRC as the nominee Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #115

You realize that people who don't post on DU get to vote in the election too, right? DanTex Jul 2015 #116

Thus we will have a center right Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #117

That would make other workers "liabilities." Liabilities are liquidated. leveymg Jul 2015 #118

Really? THIS is why you despair? All Tuckered Out Jul 2015 #119

This is just the latest Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #120

You are an odd All Tuckered Out Jul 2015 #122

I specifically Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #123

"Even when pandering to us, she speaks the language of the oligarchs." LWolf Jul 2015 #121