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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 07:59 AM Jul 2015

Silence from Sanders as Planned Parenthood comes under attack. [View all]

But with these new videos, progressive members of Congress and Planned Parenthood's biggest corporate backer are nervously recalling another liberal institution brought down by a conservative sting operation: ACORN, a grassroots political group that fell apart in 2010 after conservative activist James O'Keefe pulled a similar sting. "We saw what happened with ACORN, and it happened so fast and it happened without enough pushback from Democrats," Heidi Hess, the campaign director for Credo, a liberal group that is Planned Parenthood's largest corporate sponsor, told the Hill. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) agreed: "It does have that feeling."

They are referring to the successful GOP campaign to destroy ACORN, a string of community organizations that advocated for various issues touching low-income families. But the group was best known for its massive voter registration drives. ACORN registered 450,000 first-time voters in 2008 alone. Over its nearly 40 years of operation, the group had received about $53 million in federal funds for its community organizing activities.

Planned Parenthood's allies have sensed that these videos have more resonance than past attacks. Compared with past attacks on the group, its supporters have been more muted. During the Komen debacle, presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) was part of a chorus of lawmakers who demanded that Komen restore funding. This time around, he has not gone out of his way to defend the group, and he said the "tone" of the staffer in the first video "was terribly wrong." Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is responding to reporters' questions exclusively by reading from a tepid, prepared statement: "These politically motivated videos raise questions, but nothing I've seen indicates that Planned Parenthood violated federal law." On Tuesday, Credo called on Democrats to defend Planned Parenthood more vocally.

A congressional push to defund Planned Parenthood would likely not result in the organization's complete collapse, and would probably only focus on the group's Title X funding, a federal family planning grant program that makes up 10 percent of the group's federal support. The rest of its federal funding comes from Medicaid; in the past, as Vox reports, conservatives have left that alone. But Planned Parenthood allies are already fearful that this is the start of a full-on ACORNing. Earlier this week, Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) said that the videos "give us a window into the soul of the big abortion industry." If the public comes to believe her, it could spell disaster for the largest women's health care network in the country.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/planned-parenthood-sting-videos-explained

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lol reddread Jul 2015 #1
Yes, reproductive rights are hilarious and sufrommich Jul 2015 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #3
Ok Mr. Progressive dude. sufrommich Jul 2015 #6
Yeah, a pharmaceutical exists, as does a procedure. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #127
"...he said the 'tone' of the staffer in the first video 'was terribly wrong.'" Petrushka Jul 2015 #4
His comment about "tone" isn't the problem.His silence is. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #5
If that's the case, what prompted you to BOLD that particular sentence in the article? Petrushka Jul 2015 #12
What is he listening for? Is PP under attack or not? sufrommich Jul 2015 #14
You might do better to question the FIGHTER concerning HER extended silence on the matter. I mean: Petrushka Jul 2015 #20
Hillary Clinton Defends Embattled Planned Parenthood sufrommich Jul 2015 #22
Why didn't she say something sooner . . . on the 17th, for instance? Petrushka Jul 2015 #34
it takes time to gather focus groups and to poll test phrases.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #56
Clinton's have supported PP fully for a lifetime....but you already knew that. Inexplicable comment. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #59
the comment was about why it took so long for her to speak NOW virtualobserver Jul 2015 #61
Well, she has been kind of busy fending off all the fake attacks on her lately, left and right, if one would kindly notice. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #66
'Too busy' to say a paragraph? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #183
So has Sanders. n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #103
Agreed, and that is the problem, because the focus should be on ending the GOP and media insanity. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #184
He's not been silent. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #13
He certainly has been silent.Please link to his comments on sufrommich Jul 2015 #16
From the article itself: ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #17
exactly, it makes no sense to defend wrong behavior.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #63
He would have done better to remain silent. okasha Jul 2015 #122
He used the same language the director of Planned Parenthood used. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #125
Irrelevant. okasha Jul 2015 #128
To the contrary, it's entirely relevant. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #132
Simple. okasha Jul 2015 #135
Oh, horse poop! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #137
Also irrelevant. okasha Jul 2015 #139
Again, horse poop! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #140
Deal with it. okasha Jul 2015 #142
I'll deal with it by laughing. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #143
Whatever. okasha Jul 2015 #144
Some times, that's the only way to get the point across. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #146
Very, very true. okasha Jul 2015 #158
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #160
+1 beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #145
Good point! neverforget Jul 2015 #147
Our guy didn't need to "evolve" on equal rights. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #152
If Sen. Sanders walked on water, there are some people who would say he can't swim. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #148
They did the same thing to Obama in 2008. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #149
Oh, I well remember. n/t ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #151
There must be many progressives who do not favour or even like to go along with Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #33
You have many very nasty things to say about other people's sex lives, very Republican of you.... Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #70
That's an interesting post. Oh, well, another day online. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #164
What. The. Fuck. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #113
If they don't, then they can hardly be considered "progressives" skepticscott Jul 2015 #123
The malady considers itself the remedy. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #124
What? BainsBane Jul 2015 #37
The silence is strategic Vattel Jul 2015 #7
Planned Parenthood is about to be ACORN'd to death. sufrommich Jul 2015 #8
You have a point, but a strategic mistake is a different issue than MH1 Jul 2015 #19
EXACT same plot as ACORN, this time folks have to grow a pair and call a lie a lie! Everyone! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #26
FYI Fred, only 7 Senators voted against the attack on ACORN, one of whom was Bernie Sanders Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #75
I believe most of the complaints against ACORN were contrived and Enthusiast Jul 2015 #170
Didn't the President and the Attorney General have a hand in the demise of ACORN? Enthusiast Jul 2015 #168
The President did not ask Van Jones to resign...the problem with people is amnesia a lot of the time. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #169
That is why a women's right to choose is on its last legs because Democrats haven't been forceful still_one Jul 2015 #18
THIS! Thank you, Still One. bettyellen Jul 2015 #76
And it looks like the stratetgy paid off rocktivity Jul 2015 #49
But you won't see customized headlines complaining about Obama's "silence" on the issue. arcane1 Jul 2015 #109
He no doubt sees it as a "side" issue. Popcorn 51 Jul 2015 #9
Speaking of always attacking... SoapBox Jul 2015 #10
Now, now, Bernie supporters are the only ones that do attack posts. I know, A Simple Game Jul 2015 #58
Infuriating 90-percent Jul 2015 #11
'keep digging! gotta find something on Bernie!' nt HFRN Jul 2015 #15
Hmmmm... Scootaloo Jul 2015 #21
They know good and we'll his record is excellent, consistent, and even ahead of the curve TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #29
^^ This! ^^ (eom) Petrushka Jul 2015 #35
You nailed it! raindaddy Jul 2015 #36
Thank you. n/t onyourleft Jul 2015 #90
^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #105
Right on! Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #106
They got nothin' Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #138
Yep. You and Scootaloo nailed it. hifiguy Jul 2015 #150
Shutting down PP has been the GOPers plan for PP for sometime. Iliyah Jul 2015 #23
Clinton has spoken out forcibly against the criminal propagandists who did the video. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #25
OMG! Sanders agreed with PP's President! Jim Lane Jul 2015 #24
You know that is not correct, you know it was not about "tone" and PP said much, much more. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #27
I have no basis for disagreeing with what Planned Parenthood said. Jim Lane Jul 2015 #38
PP has implied that the distorted videos from GOP political operatives are a mendacious abortion of truth. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #41
I swear... JackInGreen Jul 2015 #28
+1. It's asinine. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #108
Women of the 1% will never have trouble with unwanted pregnancies. jalan48 Jul 2015 #30
Another ridiculous OP in the never ending food fight on DU GitRDun Jul 2015 #31
hear hear artislife Jul 2015 #77
Needing constant reassurance about a candidate's stance on every issue... bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #32
It's not reassurance or "stand" BainsBane Jul 2015 #39
He took the same stance as planned parenthood bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #42
So PP staff have to be aware that GOP operatives might have a hidden camera on them at all times?? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #44
Unfortunately, yes. They're a lightning rod for this kind of thing, so they need to be mindful. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #45
Nonsense. Besides, the issue is the massive fraudulent attack on PP, and intelligence, being committed by the GOP, am I right? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #47
Of course you're right. But that doesn't mean they can't be more careful. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #54
Got it. So, agreed, OK?.....So shall we move on to the full frontal attack on PP instead of avoid the issue, shall we? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #57
So shall I send out a press release? That'll stop em! bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #62
How are the attacks on planned parenthood a non-issue? BainsBane Jul 2015 #48
I didn't say the attacks were a non-issue bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #55
I'm not attempting anything BainsBane Jul 2015 #73
What someone did 40 years ago doesn't matter much at all. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #85
Bernie group certainly do put a lot of weight on words said decades ago Sheepshank Jul 2015 #92
There's a difference between "for 40 years" and "40 years ago", and you know that. arcane1 Jul 2015 #116
"Hillary Clinton - Everything is Priority #1" great campaign slogan. Completely void of meaning. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #111
As it turns out Bernie outspoken stance this election cycle Sheepshank Jul 2015 #94
Exactly. I'm a big girl, I don't need someone to hold my hand and make reassuring noises. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #97
A message from seabeyond: i cannot post, but i can pm. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #100
Jury results hifiguy Jul 2015 #153
Nice. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #154
She is a real piece of work, that one. hifiguy Jul 2015 #156
Careful or sh........... I mean someone will alert on you next davidpdx Jul 2015 #162
How can I view this video with the staffer's inappropriate "tone." BainsBane Jul 2015 #40
I heard it. Bernie did not. Which is what he actually says, which is that he agreed with Planned Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #72
Why does he say it was right if he didn't see the video? BainsBane Jul 2015 #74
I think saying 'I have not seen the video but I agree with the leaders involved' is the only right Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #80
This isn't about disagreeing with Richards,everybody has sufrommich Jul 2015 #86
She didn't wait to be asked BainsBane Jul 2015 #88
A little conflict here. Control-Z Jul 2015 #112
Oh for the love of dog Botany Jul 2015 #43
nicely done. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #50
I really am something special aren't I? Botany Jul 2015 #60
heh. love the handle...plants rule! nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #64
They're desperate. There is no depth of dishonesty too low for them to plumb now. arcane1 Jul 2015 #107
The OP is comical in it's attempt to find fault where none exists. Vattel Jul 2015 #161
Sanders will say it's an economic issue, if anything Politicub Jul 2015 #46
sanders has an excellent record restorefreedom Jul 2015 #53
But this thread is about defense of Planned Parenthood Politicub Jul 2015 #79
those are my words of course restorefreedom Jul 2015 #82
Somehow I don't think a woman's right to chose is the top issue for women of the 1%. jalan48 Jul 2015 #67
Another dishonest post. arcane1 Jul 2015 #110
Why is Hillary Clinton so quiet on her pro-fracking, pro-TPP, pro-Keystone, pro-CCA stands????? marble falls Jul 2015 #51
exactly! restorefreedom Jul 2015 #84
Someone keeps looking for wedge issues with Bernie Sanders, but..... marble falls Jul 2015 #89
she doesn't want to explain herself restorefreedom Jul 2015 #91
If she gets the nod she'll have to come clean. What we really need is Dem in the White House..... marble falls Jul 2015 #93
By all means let's bring up ACORN ctsnowman Jul 2015 #52
Illustrating how a massive Psyc-op operation well funded and co-ordinated can overwhelm logic. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #81
Is Sander's record in question on this? kenfrequed Jul 2015 #65
adamantine Botany Jul 2015 #68
Nailed it. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #69
A voting record doesn't tell us what his priorities are BainsBane Jul 2015 #99
He mentions women's right to control their own bodies in damn near every speech. arcane1 Jul 2015 #104
#Not Good Enough Bernie. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #119
Seriously, the sheer effort devoted to this fruitless smear campaign has been quite eye-opening! arcane1 Jul 2015 #126
"exploit for cheap, short-term political gain." BainsBane Jul 2015 #130
So you're stooping the their level? n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #131
iokwhcsdi beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #136
Righteous! okasha Jul 2015 #141
Ever since DLC redefined Democrats as Republicans who are good on social issues-- eridani Jul 2015 #166
Only a liar would imply Sanders doesn't have a stellar record on women's issues arcane1 Jul 2015 #102
See my post above. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #159
Sanders and Clinton are both strong on reproductive choice, and Bernie was one of just 7 Senators Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #71
More shameless shit-slinging. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #78
+1,000 !!! CountAllVotes Jul 2015 #83
Planned Parenthood is always under attack. Vinca Jul 2015 #87
He needs to speak out forcefully now Sheepshank Jul 2015 #95
That's it. Bernie is dead to me. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #96
It's starting to become an embarrassment. Nothing is too sacred not to be shamelessly exploited. arcane1 Jul 2015 #114
They're upset that progressive women are flocking to Bernie. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #117
You must be positively giddy at the prospect of some new bullshit material.. frylock Jul 2015 #98
Bullshit-mining is hard work! Especially for free. arcane1 Jul 2015 #115
LOL keep stretching like that and you'll pull a muscle. Esp with your "creative" headline arcane1 Jul 2015 #101
Old but pretty darn good: elleng Jul 2015 #118
Well obviously M'OM doesn't care about us either. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #120
Sanders is an excellent ally in this area. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #121
Why is Sanders silent on this issue? Gothmog Jul 2015 #129
Yes..ALL CANDIDATES should be stressing the campaign to get rid of PP Gloria Jul 2015 #134
Re: Bernie, this is a manufactured issue. John Poet Jul 2015 #133
The Rovian attacks made by Clinton supporters is sickening billymayshere Jul 2015 #155
"Rovian" is the pluperfect descriptor. nt hifiguy Jul 2015 #157
It's Rovian to ask someone to explain what he means? shenmue Jul 2015 #163
It's worse than silence. Bernie piled on and called PP "terribly wrong"! SunSeeker Jul 2015 #165
They know that,they just choose to make it sufrommich Jul 2015 #167
Sanders is better on wealth inequality and war/peace issues. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #171
Bullshit. Any honest HC supporter would admit that his record is stellar. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #172
Voting records do not tell the whole story of how someone would act as president. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #173
No, but a lifetime of passionate support of my reproductive rights tell me all I need to know. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #174
why did he have time to defend Ed Schultz but not Planned Parenthood? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #175
Oh ffs, knock it off. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #176
A question for you to answer, with blunt candor: geek tragedy Jul 2015 #177
I can only answer for myself: I don't support manufacturing memes to tear down other candidates beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #178
We all know that Bernie is 100% pro-choice. I don't think it's villifying geek tragedy Jul 2015 #179
Then tell that to the posters upthread who are vilifying him. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #180
those women are amongst the most fervent advocates of feminism and women's rights geek tragedy Jul 2015 #181
You don't have to, someone else already did and I agree with them. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #182
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