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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: LOL !!! - I Want One... [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)83. So we agree conservative Dems backed HRC last time as well?
The differential between Clinton and Sanders is left / right.
It's not black / white or man / woman or whatever weird ugliness a few unfortunately opportunistically minded people would like to turn it into.
Liberals consistently prefer liberals. When Obama and HRC were head-to-head, they largely sided with Obama, while conservative-leaning Dems preferred Hillary.
It's no different today. Conservative Dems are circling around Hillary; liberals again prefer the more liberal candidate.
That's how these discussions are supposed to go. It does not require unreasoning hatred on anyone's part to prefer Dems more aligned with their own principles.
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WillyT
Aug 2015
#136
I don't have 'compadres' I speak only for me. The very fact that you would make such a statement
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#138
Nope. Because they imply that "hope" somehow belongs to only one candidate, which is ridiculous.
merrily
Aug 2015
#19
Yep. Because the seminal poster made a mockery of the campaign mantra of the first black president.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#22
It was not seminal. It was copyright infringement and Fairey did not remain a fan of Obama anyway.
merrily
Aug 2015
#24
The image shown in the OP does not say "hope and change." Of those words, it says only "hope."
merrily
Aug 2015
#27
It's impossible to argue the word "hope" belongs to anyone, not any one person, not any one
merrily
Aug 2015
#29
You claimed "hope" was the mantra of the first African American President & had been misused.
merrily
Aug 2015
#34
Both the on topic comments and the off topic comments in your post are as short on facts as
merrily
Aug 2015
#147
IMHO it has everything to do with it. I am allowed to disagree with you.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#31
You most certainly are. And I am allowed to disagree with you. And I stated my point...
Armstead
Aug 2015
#32
See Reply 38. Something obviously intended as mild humor and not aimed at Obama
merrily
Aug 2015
#44
Whether or not the intention is racist, it can only be viewed as a cheap slam at Obama.
potone
Aug 2015
#87
I read the criticism as being against politicians in general, maybe Hillary's brand new
merrily
Aug 2015
#54
"Cowardly"? What is cowardly about her comment? You may not agree with it but characterizing it...
George II
Aug 2015
#123
You're right, and you've said a lot. I've been told these sentiments don't exist but they do
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#62
Barack Obama is the culmination of Abraham Lincoln and Lyndon Johnson's work.
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#127
Thanks to Obama I get Medicaid which was previously unavailable to single indigent adults
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#134
I doubt that being an accepted message from BS. After all, he is running on the same basis, that is,
freshwest
Aug 2015
#141
And this time you are supporting the 2007 candidate of "harworking people, white people"
eridani
Aug 2015
#150
BLM is doing it wrong. Which is why we should only take to White people about this.
ieoeja
Aug 2015
#81
From the interview, the direction the talk was talking is that it is a white problem.
freshwest
Aug 2015
#148
Because Bernie did that image? He worked for Obama's election and he won't even mock Hillary.
merrily
Aug 2015
#15
Baseless winger criticism is a waste of time, that's what most of the Hillary and Obama criticism is
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#66
I don't see it as crap, but if it were, he is certainly not alone in being on a roll of crap posts.
merrily
Aug 2015
#49
This poster must be effective, given the level of vitriol directed against it. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#51
Effective at illustrating a meme that at the root of the "Bern" is Obama hatred... yeap
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#67
Nope, hanging it on context... the anti Obama one that's a constant undertone in the "Bern"
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#73
Yeah you're right the animus towards Obama is all in folks minds. POSUCS post don't get > 200 recs..
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#145
I'm thinking it's people feeling anti establishment and throwing the baby out with the bath water
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#143
How 'bout Obama passing the indefinite detention of US citizens w/o a trial?
OnyxCollie
Aug 2015
#82
Yeap, I've been saying for weeks that at the root of the Bernie camp is anti Obama and anti...
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#61