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2016 Postmortem

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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:55 AM Aug 2015

Insisting That Racism Be Addressed In It's Own Terms Is Not "Weaponizing" It. [View all]

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If a candidate for a political office has spent 50 plus years talking almost entirely about economic issues as a panacea for society's ills with little individual focus on racial issues- that isn't 'weaponizing' it.

If a candidate's campaign was lacking outreach to minorities it isn't 'weaponizing' to critique that lack.

If a candidate's message fails to pointedly address racial issues in a way that resonates with minorities, it isn't 'weaponizing' to discuss that failure.

The only way to call it 'weaponizing' is if you are such a partisan of a particular candidate you can't tolerate any criticism no matter how valid.

Every Democratic candidate running for POTUS has strengths and weaknesses.

Bernie Sanders came into the race for POTUS with a weakness that was plainly visible on several levels.

Trying to pretend those weaknesses are the fault of those pointing them out just shows how deeply that weakness penetrates their candidate.

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Blah, blah, blah. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #1
Truly, that was going to be my response. Blah blah blah. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #2
+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #7
Don't you mean ... "La La La" ...? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #30
Prepare yourself for snark. But your outline demonstrates why Bernie will never win the nomination. leftofcool Aug 2015 #3
Racism is only one of many issues on the 2016 table pipoman Aug 2015 #4
Ayup... boston bean Aug 2015 #5
Using it as a stink bomb to attack opposing Democrats AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #6
OP = "whitesplaining". nt Romulox Aug 2015 #8
But then... HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #9
Yet another long time DUer bites the dust ... Trajan Aug 2015 #10
I reject your premise about Bernie Sanders. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #11
Oh yea, we forgot, he marched with MLK leftofcool Aug 2015 #14
Among other activities, but for some, it will never be enough. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #15
You are correct! It is not enough! leftofcool Aug 2015 #34
But what Hillary has or rather hasn't done is plenty according to her supporters. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38
As I wrote below... Garrett78 Aug 2015 #86
The op is speading a meme that she knows is wrong. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #87
Didn't read it, did you? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #16
You want the staunchest Hillaryites to READ it ?!??!! Now you've gone too far LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #18
It was right there in the title: "20 examples" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #21
Sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #33
Divisive misrepresentation bullshit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #63
Watch it. I got a hide today for telling somebody to stop lying. This treads dangerously close! Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #77
Sorry, had to re-read, I still nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #78
I support your cause, but I'm only three hides away from a vacation for joining it. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #80
Hey they got 2 to go nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #81
There is another choice, we all make a point of NOT POSTING on any of the bullshit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #82
I can find footage of Bernie saying he doesn't "do demographics". KittyWampus Aug 2015 #23
Unless he had a brush in his hand, I don't think literally means what you think it means. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #24
shall we watch the "masterful" Hillary response again? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #12
false claim right out the gate. cali Aug 2015 #13
Bernie's weakness is lack of name recognition. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #17
whitesplaining of whitesplaining of... cali Aug 2015 #19
So since your first point is absolutely false, need we bother reading to the end of the OP? LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #20
I don't really understand what you mean LWolf Aug 2015 #22
This ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #39
Okay. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #46
Or, at least, that's what I took from it. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #52
At this point, LWolf Aug 2015 #55
In his time in political office he never had a racial problem until.... Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #25
a certain candidate's supporters are starting to seem very underhanded HFRN Aug 2015 #26
I don't like the term "weaponizing" either. But you just used it as a weapon. Armstead Aug 2015 #27
Bravo! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29
Bernie's focus is primarily on economic justice. DanTex Aug 2015 #36
I do not have the time to go rumnmaging through the Internets archives again Armstead Aug 2015 #41
No need to rummage. DanTex Aug 2015 #45
True Armstead Aug 2015 #48
No, it's not that sharp, and no Hillary isn't a single-minded pusher of racial justice. DanTex Aug 2015 #49
I don't believe you actually know what Bernie's focus is. As something of a Bernie Fanboy, I can Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #79
Nailed it LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #58
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #28
'Point out racism/sexism/misogyny/heterosexism on the Left' HFRN Aug 2015 #31
Not all Hispanics are Caucasian. Some are African in origin, some are mixed and some are white. stevenleser Aug 2015 #35
Well ... Hispanics largely term disparate treatment based on their enthicity as racism ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #37
She sure struck a nerve! leftofcool Aug 2015 #32
As I said ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #40
It's win-win with crap posts like the OP.. frylock Aug 2015 #59
The idea of The Left as one distinct group is a false construct Armstead Aug 2015 #42
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #43
Sorry, but that was an overly broad bush Armstead Aug 2015 #44
I hate to point out the OP's views of LGBT activists seeking equality, but I will for you: Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #50
Does that, somehow, diminish my point? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #54
Well, the OP has a long, strong history of that nature. What she says there is the opposite of Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #61
I think you are grinding an ax here ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #64
And by "weakness" in this context you mean "contrived weakness" Android3.14 Aug 2015 #47
Bottom line: Bernie's record on racial justice is better than Clinton's. Vattel Aug 2015 #51
People of color don't seem to think so. And they are who matters in this context. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #67
I know many POC who do think so. And they are correct. Vattel Aug 2015 #69
Your one off experiences are not what matter. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #70
LOl, why not just look at the respective records. Vattel Aug 2015 #71
Lol, what people of color think is what matters. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #72
POC don't all think the same thing, in case you didn't notice. Vattel Aug 2015 #73
There is an overwhelming amount of support for Hillary vs Sanders among POC. In case you didnt stevenleser Aug 2015 #74
The issue is who has the better record on issues of race, in case you forgot. Vattel Aug 2015 #75
Another sanders-has-a-race-problem widget hits the floor whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #53
Appealing to racists is... MellowDem Aug 2015 #56
like Armstead said upthread, this post is yet another example of that "weaponization" m-lekktor Aug 2015 #57
You're partially correct. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #60
Divisive not wroth of anything more (example of weaponizing) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62
This is nothing new. The old "CALLING something racist is worse than actually BEING racist" BS has Number23 Aug 2015 #65
And "weaponizing" is the new way of saying playing a "race card" which got too bettyellen Aug 2015 #66
Exactly. Look at the folks applauding that OP. Were any of them a surprise to you? Number23 Aug 2015 #68
That's exactly what it is. nt Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #84
I don't even know what the hell that means. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #76
You got nothing on Bernie's policies, so you have to make shit up. Thanks for tipping your hand GoneFishin Aug 2015 #83
Keep telling yourself that...meanwhile, in reality noiretextatique Aug 2015 #85
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