2016 Postmortem

LondonReign2

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58. Nailed it

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:03 PM

Aug 2015

Talking about Sanders' actual policy or actual history is a losing move for Clinton supporters so they are stuck spinning lies.

It is quite a Rovian tactic, attempting to turn your candidate's strength against them. It worked for TANG deserter Bush who Rove somehow managed to convince people was more patriotic than Silver Star recipient Kerry. When you lose by talking about the issues, why not try to make 2008 racist dog whistle Hillary into a racial justice warrior over the guy that has proven it in words and actions his entire career? Why not try to turn the person who was against gay marriage up through 2013 into the gay activist over the guy who supported gay marriage decades before it was fashionable?

And WHATEVER you do, avoid talking about economic policies.

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Insisting That Racism Be Addressed In It's Own Terms Is Not "Weaponizing" It. [View all] KittyWampus Aug 2015 OP

Blah, blah, blah. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #1

Truly, that was going to be my response. Blah blah blah. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #2

+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #7

Don't you mean ... "La La La" ...? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #30

Prepare yourself for snark. But your outline demonstrates why Bernie will never win the nomination. leftofcool Aug 2015 #3

Racism is only one of many issues on the 2016 table pipoman Aug 2015 #4

Ayup... boston bean Aug 2015 #5

Using it as a stink bomb to attack opposing Democrats AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #6

OP = "whitesplaining". nt Romulox Aug 2015 #8

But then... HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #9

Yet another long time DUer bites the dust ... Trajan Aug 2015 #10

I reject your premise about Bernie Sanders. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #11

Oh yea, we forgot, he marched with MLK leftofcool Aug 2015 #14

Among other activities, but for some, it will never be enough. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #15

You are correct! It is not enough! leftofcool Aug 2015 #34

But what Hillary has or rather hasn't done is plenty according to her supporters. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38

As I wrote below... Garrett78 Aug 2015 #86

The op is speading a meme that she knows is wrong. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #87

Didn't read it, did you? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #16

You want the staunchest Hillaryites to READ it ?!??!! Now you've gone too far LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #18

It was right there in the title: "20 examples" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #21

Sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #33

Divisive misrepresentation bullshit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #63

Watch it. I got a hide today for telling somebody to stop lying. This treads dangerously close! Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #77

Sorry, had to re-read, I still nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #78

I support your cause, but I'm only three hides away from a vacation for joining it. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #80

Hey they got 2 to go nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #81

There is another choice, we all make a point of NOT POSTING on any of the bullshit nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #82

I can find footage of Bernie saying he doesn't "do demographics". KittyWampus Aug 2015 #23

Unless he had a brush in his hand, I don't think literally means what you think it means. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #24

shall we watch the "masterful" Hillary response again? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #12

false claim right out the gate. cali Aug 2015 #13

Bernie's weakness is lack of name recognition. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #17

whitesplaining of whitesplaining of... cali Aug 2015 #19

So since your first point is absolutely false, need we bother reading to the end of the OP? LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #20

I don't really understand what you mean LWolf Aug 2015 #22

This ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #39

Okay. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #46

Or, at least, that's what I took from it. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #52

At this point, LWolf Aug 2015 #55

In his time in political office he never had a racial problem until.... Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #25

a certain candidate's supporters are starting to seem very underhanded HFRN Aug 2015 #26

I don't like the term "weaponizing" either. But you just used it as a weapon. Armstead Aug 2015 #27

Bravo! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29

Bernie's focus is primarily on economic justice. DanTex Aug 2015 #36

I do not have the time to go rumnmaging through the Internets archives again Armstead Aug 2015 #41

No need to rummage. DanTex Aug 2015 #45

True Armstead Aug 2015 #48

No, it's not that sharp, and no Hillary isn't a single-minded pusher of racial justice. DanTex Aug 2015 #49

I don't believe you actually know what Bernie's focus is. As something of a Bernie Fanboy, I can Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #79

Nailed it LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #58

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #28

'Point out racism/sexism/misogyny/heterosexism on the Left' HFRN Aug 2015 #31

Not all Hispanics are Caucasian. Some are African in origin, some are mixed and some are white. stevenleser Aug 2015 #35

Well ... Hispanics largely term disparate treatment based on their enthicity as racism ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #37

She sure struck a nerve! leftofcool Aug 2015 #32

As I said ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #40

It's win-win with crap posts like the OP.. frylock Aug 2015 #59

The idea of The Left as one distinct group is a false construct Armstead Aug 2015 #42

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #43

Sorry, but that was an overly broad bush Armstead Aug 2015 #44

I hate to point out the OP's views of LGBT activists seeking equality, but I will for you: Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #50

Does that, somehow, diminish my point? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #54

Well, the OP has a long, strong history of that nature. What she says there is the opposite of Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #61

I think you are grinding an ax here ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #64

And by "weakness" in this context you mean "contrived weakness" Android3.14 Aug 2015 #47

Bottom line: Bernie's record on racial justice is better than Clinton's. Vattel Aug 2015 #51

People of color don't seem to think so. And they are who matters in this context. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #67

I know many POC who do think so. And they are correct. Vattel Aug 2015 #69

Your one off experiences are not what matter. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #70

LOl, why not just look at the respective records. Vattel Aug 2015 #71

Lol, what people of color think is what matters. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #72

POC don't all think the same thing, in case you didn't notice. Vattel Aug 2015 #73

There is an overwhelming amount of support for Hillary vs Sanders among POC. In case you didnt stevenleser Aug 2015 #74

The issue is who has the better record on issues of race, in case you forgot. Vattel Aug 2015 #75

Another sanders-has-a-race-problem widget hits the floor whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #53

Appealing to racists is... MellowDem Aug 2015 #56

like Armstead said upthread, this post is yet another example of that "weaponization" m-lekktor Aug 2015 #57

You're partially correct. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #60

Divisive not wroth of anything more (example of weaponizing) nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62

This is nothing new. The old "CALLING something racist is worse than actually BEING racist" BS has Number23 Aug 2015 #65

And "weaponizing" is the new way of saying playing a "race card" which got too bettyellen Aug 2015 #66

Exactly. Look at the folks applauding that OP. Were any of them a surprise to you? Number23 Aug 2015 #68

That's exactly what it is. nt Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #84

I don't even know what the hell that means. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #76

You got nothing on Bernie's policies, so you have to make shit up. Thanks for tipping your hand GoneFishin Aug 2015 #83

Keep telling yourself that...meanwhile, in reality noiretextatique Aug 2015 #85