2016 Postmortem

KMOD

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329. I have pretty strong opinions on this as well, Beam.

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #313)

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:33 AM

Aug 2015

I'm not ignorant on this issue.

Once again, I know why women get them. I want to prevent this possible pain they can go through when it happens that late in pregnancy. I want to prevent women from having to face this gut wrenching choice, period.

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Why Bernie Sanders Is Best on Women's Issues [View all] Uncle Joe Aug 2015 OP

Yea, because men know so much more about my body than a woman does. leftofcool Aug 2015 #1

Knowing about your body "more" is relevant to a political stance on issues? Bonobo Aug 2015 #2

I think so. KMOD Aug 2015 #41

Watch out.We're about to get our lady parts mansplained. okasha Aug 2015 #151

Let 'em try. KMOD Aug 2015 #154

You DID notice that the author of the piece excerpted in the OP hifiguy Aug 2015 #366

+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #220

I took a leap of faith from the author's name and pic, that she was a woman. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #5

The author of the article is a woman. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #6

There's a man named "Heather?" Fawke Em Aug 2015 #11

he probably drives a volvo, too. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #20

Just because someone is a woman does not mean she's the standard bearer of women's rights... HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #12

I responded to the wrong post. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #116

Bingo Garrett78 Aug 2015 #256

So Sarah Palin would make a wonderful President, then? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #18

I don't care what they do or don't know SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #146

It should be every man's position. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #167

We were issued penises instead of opinions JackInGreen Aug 2015 #277

Lol! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #285

This is about politics, and woman's autonomy Demeter Aug 2015 #253

The link was to an article written by a woman, davidpdx Sep 2015 #390

See? Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #3

+1000000 CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #43

The idea behind ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #82

yes. and htey have been told repeatedly, given the tape to listen to, and no interest at all seabeyond Aug 2015 #90

It's just hard to imagine ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #120

they watched the actual tape, where they heard clinton literally say it and still... went after her seabeyond Aug 2015 #125

There are people here ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #131

yes. like suggesting, or flat out stating sanders is a better womans advocate than clinton. seabeyond Aug 2015 #133

It doesn't matter ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #140

true that. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #142

An additional fact. okasha Aug 2015 #166

Thank you for saying this. eom. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #103

No it isn't. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #152

you ignore what clinton said, nancy reiterated, to argue something no one is talking about. seabeyond Aug 2015 #155

And I quote.... SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #162

Hillary supported a ban on late term abortions. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #163

Yep. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #169

How anyone could support a ban is beyond me. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #170

People don't do things like that just because. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #171

that is a right wing lie....why are you repeating it? Florencenj2point0 Aug 2015 #370

CLINTON: "I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #372

And your response has ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #307

"... exactly what to do with what I've posted?" SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #386

What you posted was ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #387

I give up. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #389

Agree. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #148

Good thing Bernie didn't say we should "find common ground" with anti-Choicers like Hillary did, eh! Bonobo Aug 2015 #264

Boom. hifiguy Aug 2015 #365

Looks like Bernie has a lot of female fans in the comment section IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #4

And you know they are all females because how? leftofcool Aug 2015 #7

Because they have avatars and I have eyes IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #8

Yea, because no one ever uses a fake avatar. LMAO! leftofcool Aug 2015 #14

It's been confirmed that your candidate has an incredible amount of fake followers.. frylock Aug 2015 #26

When she was Secretary of State she purchased fake Facebook fans for the department. arcane1 Aug 2015 #30

Gawdamned phonies frylock Aug 2015 #119

Are you serious? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #126

"In 2013, the State Department ... said it would stop buying Facebook fans" arcane1 Aug 2015 #137

Damn! That reminds me of an old joke. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #143

I'll be fair and say I don't know when the practice started. arcane1 Aug 2015 #150

Thanks for the additional info but apparently it wasn't stopped until Kerry came to office. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #156

Exactly. It lasted no more than 5 years n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #159

Oh she's still buying Facebook likes aggressively from Myamar, Thailand, Bangladesh, etc. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #279

More than half of her Twitter followers are fake/inactive. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #280

AAAAAAAGH How could ANYONE vote for someone who does things like that sibelian Aug 2015 #357

It is phoniness on a level that is positively Nixonian, hifiguy Aug 2015 #367

Yep. she's buying them for herself now n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #281

Not that facebook "likes" have anything to do with the election, did you ever think... George II Aug 2015 #363

OMG Demeter Aug 2015 #255

Facts are irrelevant. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #33

Go ahead and click on a few IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #34

*sniff sniff* The smell of desperation int he morning... LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #364

We sure love him at #babesforbernie beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #10

Hillary isn't as universally popular among women as you apparently think. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #19

And why should she necessarily be? SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #190

She wouldn't, and it's pretty clear, she isn't. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #202

Really. That's who my response was directed toward as well. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #276

He has a lot of female fans on DU too. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #223

Yes he does, count me among them. IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #239

The majority of women polled on DU prefer Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #244

If Bill Clinton can be the first black President jfern Aug 2015 #9

I am going to pretend like I didn't read this. leftofcool Aug 2015 #16

Well, that shouldn't present much difficulty for *you*. sibelian Aug 2015 #358

LMAO L0oniX Aug 2015 #368

wow seabeyond Aug 2015 #25

ha! frylock Aug 2015 #28

Holy shite! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #44

yes. he did. pretty soon sanders will be on shoulders proclaimed to be a feminist hero seabeyond Aug 2015 #53

hah! that might be me. . . love Kitty MacKinnon, love Bernie Sanders zazen Aug 2015 #379

lol. and i was gonna say... i respectfully disagree, and i do put emphasis on respectfully seabeyond Aug 2015 #381

I think I need to puke! leftofcool Aug 2015 #54

Sanders is more pro-woman jfern Aug 2015 #108

ridiculous.... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #316

You're not quite clear on if/then statements? eridani Aug 2015 #260

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #71

a mile high guy, thinks that is cute? no surprise. seabeyond Aug 2015 #78

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #96

you have been here 2 seconds and come to that conclusion? seabeyond Aug 2015 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #105

ok. an hour. unless you are admitting you are a TOS'ed returnee. seabeyond Aug 2015 #109

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #112

That was Hawkeye of unhappy memory. okasha Aug 2015 #158

ohhhhhh. well you know. a troll. insulting me. being a misogynist ass gets a 5-2 leave. peachy, seabeyond Aug 2015 #161

That's some strong laughing gas shenmue Aug 2015 #91

This made me smile. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #175

+ AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #349

Oh please don't go there. BERNIE CAN NOT BE THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT. He. Is. A. Man. !!!!!!! trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #194

But Bill Clinton is black, right? jfern Aug 2015 #195

no he is not. William Clinton is caucasian. trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #197

Well then the if part of my statement was false jfern Aug 2015 #198

Woop JackInGreen Aug 2015 #278

Women voters will determine who they find best. KMOD Aug 2015 #13

And it will be Hillary. leftofcool Aug 2015 #15

Right? KMOD Aug 2015 #17

really takes something to declare themselves better at womens issues than a woman that has advocated seabeyond Aug 2015 #23

Straw man. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #31

lmao... accomplishment and experience is a strawman now... fuckin for real? seabeyond Aug 2015 #35

No, your claim that Bernie has "declared (himself) better at womens issues" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #39

lets hope not. it would be pretty damn foolish. seabeyond Aug 2015 #45

So you admit it was a strawman. Good. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #47

no strawman at all. HRC has a proven record, world wide. KMOD Aug 2015 #36

sanders has a decent record on abortions and equal pay. that is it. womens issues is much bigger. seabeyond Aug 2015 #38

HRC has been advocating for women, all over the world. KMOD Aug 2015 #49

women and girls. she had the opportunity because she made it a priority. regardless of what roles seabeyond Aug 2015 #57

She didn't care about lgbt women when she adamantly opposed their equal rights. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #63

of course she did seabeyond Aug 2015 #66

How is telling them they shouldn't be granted equal rights standing up for them? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #73

no more than sanders. he sat quietly refusing to answer. he no more stood for equal marriage than seabeyond Aug 2015 #77

He didn't wait until 2013 to support SSM jfern Aug 2015 #100

damn it takes guts when this woman has gone to the most atrocious govt and stood for women and girls seabeyond Aug 2015 #68

And lgbt women in this country don't count? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #75

making shit up. are you serious? seabeyond Aug 2015 #79

Yes, and so are the journalists who published articles about the difference between them: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #87

Hmm. Why do I hear hifiguy Aug 2015 #369

Hello! Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #251

Hai! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #252

Do you count advocating for bombing women all over the world? n/t eridani Aug 2015 #259

Of what? How is her record any better than Bernie's? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #50

speaking and advocating for women and girls around the world does not count? seabeyond Aug 2015 #58

Not when we're comparing records. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #60

right. cause speaking and advocating for women and girls around the world accomplishes absolutely seabeyond Aug 2015 #64

You got nothing on him. You're just giving Hillary credit for speaking but discounting his record. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #95

i am not discounting his record. his record is all he has. clinton kicks his ass beyond that. seabeyond Aug 2015 #97

O'Malley and Bernie both have better records on lgbt rights than Hillary: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #113

omalley, sanders then clinton... and only a smidgen. clinton has advocated and supported gays seabeyond Aug 2015 #117

Prove that she "advocated and supported gays View profile in other way that i know sanders hasnt" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #122

you play the same game every handful of days. people jump thru your hoops for you to do it again seabeyond Aug 2015 #127

It's not a game, you made a claim about Bernie and now you refuse to back it up. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #128

How the hell has Sanders not supported gays? jfern Aug 2015 #124

you do not see me stating, implying or suggesting sanders does not support gays. seabeyond Aug 2015 #129

Well, he's certainly done a lot more for them than Hillary jfern Aug 2015 #130

not. not a lot more. as i said. i see omalley, then sanders, then clinton. and just a bit. seabeyond Aug 2015 #135

Well, certainly some jfern Aug 2015 #136

i always include omalley. he is the one i am supporting. seabeyond Aug 2015 #145

HRC has always stood up for civil rights, equal rights, and women's rights. KMOD Aug 2015 #62

She didn't stand up for lgbt women. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #67

as has clinton. seabeyond Aug 2015 #70

No, she didn't. She was fiercely opposed to same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #76

and sanders was just silently opposed to same sex marriage seabeyond Aug 2015 #80

No, she is ON THE RECORD with her opposition: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #84

and sanders is not on the record for marriage equality until 2009 seabeyond Aug 2015 #86

That is a lie, here is proof: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #89

he was asked if he was for marriage equality and wouldnt answer. you know well, those that had the seabeyond Aug 2015 #94

That is another lie, he didn't refuse to answer. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #99

it has been proven to you so many times. quit calling people liars. seabeyond Aug 2015 #104

Prove it then. Post a link to the quote. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #107

no. repeatedly you ignore. no..... seabeyond Aug 2015 #110

Then stop making that claim. I posted quotes and sources for mine. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #115

stop telling me what to do and stop telling me to shut up seabeyond Aug 2015 #121

LOL! "put up or shut up" is an expression used when asking for evidence from a reluctant person. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #123

Yes she did. But she realized change couldn't happen overnight, and that you can't force people to KMOD Aug 2015 #83

She had to evolve and I'm glad she did. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #93

no. it does not. seabeyond Aug 2015 #98

Yes, sea it does. He was on the record fighting for lgbt equality decades ago. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #106

again... marriage equality was not even a consideration. as you are well aware. seabeyond Aug 2015 #111

It was in the 90's and in the 00's. Why didn't Hillary back it then? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #114

At the time that Sanders wrote his much-touted lettwr okasha Aug 2015 #183

Same sex marriage bans are a law against homsexuality jfern Aug 2015 #187

So standing up for lgbt rights decades ago was Not Good Enough Bernie, okasha? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #188

Why don't you try that logic substituting "abortion" for "marriage equality"? eridani Aug 2015 #261

It's absurd. BS has a pretty decent record KMOD Aug 2015 #32

all clintons experience being a woman, advocating world wide is a fuckin strawman, did you know? nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #37

No, your claim that Bernie has "declared (himself) better at womens issues" is a "fuckin strawman". beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #51

No shite, leftbofcool! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #48

speaking and advocating for women and girls for a lifetime, around the world, doesnt count seabeyond Aug 2015 #61

Not when we are discussing her RECORD. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #69

of course it is fuckin part of her record. are you serious? seabeyond Aug 2015 #72

you want to dismiss most of her life work and simply count the votes these people make? get real. seabeyond Aug 2015 #74

The menz know better after all, sea. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #88

I don't see any "menz" discussing this issue here. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #92

actually it is a woman that chooses to throw women under the bus not needing our hands held having seabeyond Aug 2015 #101

Hillary is an advocate but so is Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #118

sanders doesnt come close to clinton. now we are full circle. i am an omalley supporter. seabeyond Aug 2015 #132

Exactly! Because when it comes to civil rights Bernie's record is superior. Glad we agree. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #134

you think you got a cut. you didnt. didnt make sense. i am done with you.... seabeyond Aug 2015 #141

Hillary supported a proposed ban on late-term abortions: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #157

Boom. hifiguy Aug 2015 #371

I just got called a liar for posting the same thing. Yet here are her own words: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #373

The self-delusion of some here is hifiguy Aug 2015 #376

Unlike some people I don't go shooting off my mouth without evidence to back up my claims. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #377

The last thing I need SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #185

Or anybody of any sex. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #191

Clinton surely will, unless she feels the need to compromise with right wingers eridani Aug 2015 #258

Only a woman can know what is good for my body or my health care? Autumn Aug 2015 #269

Well, gosh. I'd sort of *hope* so. sibelian Aug 2015 #384

If Sanders is so committed to women's issues, then why has he spent so much time.. frylock Aug 2015 #21

That's right, frylock! I DEMAND he answer that question! kath Aug 2015 #168

This made me smile. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #189

womens issues: clinton hands down, no one close. then omalley. then sanders. seabeyond Aug 2015 #22

Bullshit. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #24

i am allowed my opinion as you are. clinton, omalley then sanders, weakly following. seabeyond Aug 2015 #27

And that's all it is, your opinion. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29

i didnt say otherwise, well beyond the fuckin facts. but you consider facts strawman so no arguing seabeyond Aug 2015 #40

You can decide as you wish beam. KMOD Aug 2015 #55

True, everyone can decide for themselves. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #59

Tarzan dude? KMOD Aug 2015 #65

From an op yesterday : beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #81

I am very happy to have missed, that one. KMOD Aug 2015 #85

I was going to leave Tarzan alone until he insulted women who didn't support Hillary. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #164

Oh dear. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #180

Now that guy was mansplainin! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #182

Women in Iraq and Libya are apparently not female by your standards n/t eridani Aug 2015 #262

DUers weren't very happy when Hillary pandered to abortion opponents in 2008: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #42

There apparently is nothing she won't triangulate. CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #52

Yep, when it comes to civil rights Bernie didn't need to evolve. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #56

Um. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #46

It wasn't a dude, it was a woman, making a good case that Bernie has been better on women's issues Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #138

You are not a woman. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #139

So if I reposted this you'd have no problem with it? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #144

Does that mean us men can't post women authored articles and women can post articles written Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #147

And here I thought you were one person who wouldn't get cute about this. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #149

I'm not getting cute, you just slammed me for posting an article written by a woman that disagrees Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #153

Where did I "slam"? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #160

You first post. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #165

DUde=DU dude. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #177

You still haven't provided a factual counterargument to the author's assertions. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #184

A) The author is in the employ of the Sanders campaign, so she's not just some random woman Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #192

That's the point of Bernie's address to the DNC Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #196

*shrug* Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #200

Tone deaf? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #207

Yeah, starting with this one: Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #217

an employee is teling us sanders is better with womens issues than clinton. i wasted all my time seabeyond Aug 2015 #199

If you read the article you would know that Bernie is more than just being about abortion and Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #206

he paid a woman to write an article declaring him a better womans advocate than Clinton. seabeyond Aug 2015 #208

Aside from that fact that she works for with him, which part is incorrect? Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #211

he paid a woman to tell us, he is a better advocate than a woman that has spent her life taking care seabeyond Aug 2015 #213

How did he fail? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #216

No. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #326

The message not the messenger. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #333

That's straight-up propaganda you're spewing. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #282

Yes, Dr. Gautney has worked for Bernie for a couple of years: Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #215

i am so disgusted. any integrity i thought this man had is no more. he fooled me. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #218

Do you begrudge Symone Sanders her opinion on Bernie too? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #234

Did Hillary fool you too? She hired a Latina to advocate for her: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #241

Dayum! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #283

Thanks for reading, sheshe. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #284

I read this thread several times. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #286

Me, I think you should be very careful at what you say, sheshe2 Aug 2015 #172

Has Uncle Joe been less than supportive of women on DU? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #174

I've been here for ten years and I challenge you to find a single post that I have made that hasn't Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #178

I appreciate that, I do, Uncle Joe. I appreciate your empathy. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #334

Bernie never said he has a better handle on your best interests than you do. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #346

Here's your thread on women's rights that I posted on Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #193

So being female does NOT automatically confer authority on women's issues, then? sibelian Aug 2015 #361

One major reason he's best on women's issues is that he will actually make every effort Zorra Aug 2015 #173

I agree with you, Zorra. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #179

This woman thanks you for posting the op, Uncle Joe. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #176

Thank you for your support, beam me up scottie. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #181

Hey, I know I'm not the only one! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #186

o...mg seabeyond Aug 2015 #203

Got something to say to me, sea? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #205

I directed about 25 Democratic women who don't post here to read just this thread. leftofcool Aug 2015 #257

Geez, this is beyond pathetic... Spazito Aug 2015 #201

Pffft. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #204

Wow, your response was so substantive... Spazito Aug 2015 #210

Read the thread and you'll understand my reaction. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #212

Oh, I read the thread, understand your reaction... Spazito Aug 2015 #219

I understand that bills passed may be the only thing you care about. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #224

Bills are action, going to China to speak about women's rights is action.... Spazito Aug 2015 #226

Voting against late term abortion is action, voting against same sex marriage is action. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #228

Yeah, well, when it comes to caring, I care about women's issues over ANY candidate... Spazito Aug 2015 #230

Sure you do. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #231

Great comeback! Spazito Aug 2015 #232

Now I'm not a good enough feminist for you? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #233

LOL, yeah, right, that's exactly what I was saying....not... Spazito Aug 2015 #237

Well I'll give what you've "noticed" about me all the serious consideration it deserves. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #238

Awesome, I will do the same... Spazito Aug 2015 #242

And so was bombing the shit out of Baghdad n/t eridani Aug 2015 #263

Yeah, that's all about women's issues....oh, wait... Spazito Aug 2015 #266

So happy to know that none of the civilians killed were women. eridani Aug 2015 #330

Again, your post has nothing to do with the subject matter in the OP... Spazito Aug 2015 #362

Women being disproportionally killed in chaotic shitholes is something US woomen-- eridani Sep 2015 #388

Do you thing the oligarchs and 1%ers give a rat's ass about women? n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #209

Nope, but that has squat to do with my point... Spazito Aug 2015 #214

Unless you consider women's issues as not being tied to the nation's economy which in turn Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #221

Economic equality will not erase sexism, will not erase discrimination against women... Spazito Aug 2015 #222

As I said women do have some separate issues but whether you're a woman, man, black, white Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #225

Disparity of wealth is one issue, only one... Spazito Aug 2015 #227

Disparities in wealth is the mega-issue which in turn affects all other issues. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #235

To be blunt, when the sole focus is disparity in wealth it simply translates into... Spazito Aug 2015 #240

Except Bernie doesn't leave out other issues. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #243

Same shit, imo... Spazito Aug 2015 #245

As my post #235 illustrates, they are tied, but you missed my point of Bernie taking on Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #246

Bernie Sanders take on the media is not unique in any way... Spazito Aug 2015 #249

Bernie defended Hillary Clinton but he cited their differences on key issues not just economic Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #250

Bernie Sanders not attacking Hillary Clinton does not equate to him being better for women.... Spazito Aug 2015 #267

You just said Bernie was focusing solely on economic issues, I just showed you a link and video in Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #268

Yes, I am saying that because, to him, addressing the economic disparities will also address... Spazito Aug 2015 #271

One other point, Bernie didn't just "not criticize Hillary," he defended her Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #272

Well, I wasn't going to nitpick your previous excerpt but when it comes to the sexism... Spazito Aug 2015 #274

I'm going to bed, I've been up all night. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #273

Whoa, yes, go to bed, sleep well, we will surely debate another day! Spazito Aug 2015 #275

P.S. That's not the only time that Bernie has pleaded for the corporate media to focus on Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #270

Equal pay for women? George II Aug 2015 #378

Yes. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #380

Here's a nice video on how Hillary stood up for women's issues Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #385

They don't care, Joe. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #229

Thanks beam me up scottie. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #236

Yep. Zombies. hifiguy Aug 2015 #374

Lol! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #375

I get your Excellent Points loud and Clear, Spazito! Mahalo! You Rock, Woman! Cha Aug 2015 #247

Hey Cha! Spazito Aug 2015 #248

+++ KMOD Aug 2015 #292

What's the basis for thinking Clinton is strong on civil rights? Garrett78 Aug 2015 #254

Actually, IMO there are no substantive differences among the current crop of Dem candidates-- eridani Aug 2015 #265

No, he isn't BainsBane Aug 2015 #287

+1 KMOD Aug 2015 #288

yeeeup. what baines sayes. seabeyond Aug 2015 #291

Yes he is. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #289

Didn't we just talk about this the other night? KMOD Aug 2015 #293

Yes. And when republicans vote to ban abortions DU women don't give them a pass. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #294

Fine, but again, that's not what she is doing. KMOD Aug 2015 #295

What was she doing then? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #296

again, this KMOD Aug 2015 #297

WTF? Again with the right wing myth that women abort healthy late term fetuses? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #298

You agreed with me last night? KMOD Aug 2015 #300

I thought that after you read the info you would realize you were wrong. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #302

You know what, alert this Beam. KMOD Aug 2015 #304

I'm trying to explain this to you so that you will realize why women get late term abortions. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #305

I have lost all respect for you. KMOD Aug 2015 #306

I posted your own words, how did I misrepresent what you said? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #308

Posting their own words is the fastest way to piss them off. hifiguy Aug 2015 #383

Apparently you missed all of the DU women who were outraged over the late term abortion ban: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #299

You are being an ass, and I'm not sure why. KMOD Aug 2015 #301

"there should be no need, at all, for a late term abortion, unless the mother's life is in danger" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #303

I am very aware of this KMOD Aug 2015 #328

Really? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #331

Science and research is making early detection a reality. KMOD Aug 2015 #332

Are you serious? A press release from a medical research corporation? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #335

I am not restricting anyone's right. KMOD Aug 2015 #338

Do you support restricting abortions? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #340

No. And I have made that clear. KMOD Aug 2015 #342

So you disagree with Hillary about this issue? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #344

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #347

I am trying to figure out why you disagreed with my comments about late term abortions. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #350

I will not edit my comments. KMOD Aug 2015 #351

the link she has back with kerry in senate has clinton voting against it. i do not see wth she is seabeyond Aug 2015 #312

Hillary supported the ban with the exception for the mother's life. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #313

i would like to see where and when she supposedly voted for the ban. nothing in anything seabeyond Aug 2015 #315

She said it herself: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #319

I did explain it, beam. KMOD Aug 2015 #320

Yes, you said women get late term abortions because they couldn't get them earlier. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #322

Getting abortions earlier should be something we all strive for. KMOD Aug 2015 #325

I still don't know what you're getting at. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #327

I have pretty strong opinions on this as well, Beam. KMOD Aug 2015 #329

I get it, you want to help women by restricting their choices. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #336

You are way the eff out there. KMOD Aug 2015 #337

If you support restricting late term abortions you support restricting my choices. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #339

I never said such a thing. KMOD Aug 2015 #345

But you claimed that women abort healthy 8-9 month fetuses. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #348

where are you getting clinton voted to ban third term abortion? from your links. seabeyond Aug 2015 #309

Hillary Clinton Scolds US House for Banning Late-Term Abortions seabeyond Aug 2015 #310

NYT article: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #311

thru out that article not once did clinton suggest ban on late abortions. seabeyond Aug 2015 #314

She didn't "suggest" it, she supported it with the exception. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #317

One of the senators in Vermont - Leahy a Dem - voted for the ban because he's Catholic. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #318

the only vote up i saw, she voted nay. she voted against it. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #321

She supported the ban but voted against it because of the exception. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #323

As always, what you said. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #290

No he isn't!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #324

She doesn't tell men who oppose reproductive freedom that "we'll agree to disagree." - really? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #341

She said even more than that: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #352

I'm sure we'll hear how she "evolved". Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #353

That willingness to evolve or devolve depending on who she's running against is what worries me. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #354

total coincidence, I'm sure, that in 2004 the "values voters" were supposedly all powerful and Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #355

Of course. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #356

Sanders isnt a woman, so ... he has no authority on womens' issues. I read that in this thread. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #359

And Bernie actually *GASP* PAID a WOMAN to advocate for him with other women!!! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #360

Does "standing up for abortion rights" mean supporting a ban on late term abortions?: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #343

Oh wow, Sanders has decided to "do demographics". Awesome! bettyellen Aug 2015 #382