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karynnj

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20. Complete guess - She is angry that John Kerry and President Obama did not play the roles she
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:22 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

wanted them to. She created a process and assigned an industry leaning group to evaluate the environmental impact. Their task was DEFINED as assuming that pipeline or no pipeline, the same amount of dirty oil comes out of the earth -- thus that contribution to global warming "doesn't count". Right before she left office, that report came out -- and it -- no surprise - couldn't find an environmental impact! Kerry set up a process to get public opinion - and when a lot came in - extended the process -- again and again. (There was also a Nebraska case that both extended the time and changed the route.)

Clearly, what HRC likely intended to happen was that her successor would, given the SD environmental study, sign off on it - and that Obama (who had approved the construction of the lower piece) would use that as cover. This would have been nearly 3 years before a HRC run - and depending where the public was -- it would then either have been her good work lining up a comprehensive study that enabled this Job (yeah - all 5 of them) program to go forward --- or John Kerry's fault for enabling an environmental nightmare. (After all, unlike the Clintons since Arkansas days, he never thought of the environment.) (If needed - Kerry is a life long environmentalist. )

I think she's mostly looking.... daleanime Sep 2015 #1
In What Context Was This Said?.....nt global1 Sep 2015 #2
This ABC News article has details... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #10
Two possibilities occur HassleCat Sep 2015 #3
Make the decision so I don't have to admit that I'm owned. elehhhhna Sep 2015 #81
She is doing the correct thing. Don't know why it needs to be public but Renew Deal Sep 2015 #4
Why? Isn't she asking us to elect her to be a LEADER? Since when sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #8
Because there is a conflict of interest Renew Deal Sep 2015 #15
there is absolutely no conflict of interest, no matter how one tries cali Sep 2015 #17
He is her former boss and there is a conflict if your most respected adviser takes a stand. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #19
you said he was her boss. present tense. And who says she was his most cali Sep 2015 #25
Whatever makes you feel better is OK with me. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #26
Jamie Dimon and Lloyd Blankfein are her current bosses. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #44
You're so witty. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #47
With everything that's out there involving Hillary, Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #57
54 percent disapproval rating Depaysement Sep 2015 #101
Didn't stop her from being highly critical of this administration on foreign policy. n/t ieoeja Sep 2015 #45
Maybe they mean the conflict of her interest...... daleanime Sep 2015 #46
don't worry about what she means. She'll tell us when she's elected. roguevalley Sep 2015 #60
Yeah, that kind of pokes me raw too..... daleanime Sep 2015 #80
Why does that not apply to foreign policy questions? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #23
Don't know other than those questions have already been answered one way or another. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #27
Except they haven't "been answered". They are questions about on-going situations. jeff47 Sep 2015 #29
Because one is settled and the other isn't. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #31
Syria and Iran are not settled. Ukraine is not settled. jeff47 Sep 2015 #33
She didn't say she wasn't going to answer it Renew Deal Sep 2015 #35
Again, they are not settled. Those situations are constantly changing jeff47 Sep 2015 #37
They are settled in terms of strategy Renew Deal Sep 2015 #48
Foreign policy doesn't relate to her previous job. jeff47 Sep 2015 #53
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #63
You are the one claiming foreign policy does not relate to her previous job. jeff47 Sep 2015 #72
Show me where I made that claim Renew Deal Sep 2015 #74
Well, I'm talking about the foreign policy situation and jeff47 Sep 2015 #76
You misunderstood Renew Deal Sep 2015 #85
Except that makes utterly no sense in the context. jeff47 Sep 2015 #87
You don't know why policy issues should be made public? frylock Sep 2015 #38
No. I don't know why she has to make a statement saying that she is going to make a statement Renew Deal Sep 2015 #40
She could just as well have put Obama 'on notice' via private channels 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #55
she is reacting to public pressure for an answer to what she would do on an roguevalley Sep 2015 #61
Not necesarily Renew Deal Sep 2015 #69
My first thought was that it could be handled privately Renew Deal Sep 2015 #67
Hillary "putting Obama on notice" publicly still strikes me as a little odd. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #88
Do you mean like using e-mails? Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #105
I would like to know 840high Sep 2015 #98
Sorry. had to chuckle. Android3.14 Sep 2015 #75
It was such a bizarre construct. Why she can't just give her position is beyond me. morningfog Sep 2015 #5
She is pissed off that she hasn't just been crowned for the nomination snooper2 Sep 2015 #9
LOL for truth. hifiguy Sep 2015 #30
she's putting it on obama so she doesn't have to make one. She's tossed him in the ditch. roguevalley Sep 2015 #62
That is what has always happened to hifiguy Sep 2015 #68
meh. it's just a colorful way of expressing a position. unblock Sep 2015 #6
She is a US citizen, and has every right to say she is putting the WH on notice. As for what she Zorra Sep 2015 #7
lol Bubzer Sep 2015 #58
That is going to be the Official Meme of campaign season. hifiguy Sep 2015 #70
This is a way to avoid stating way to avoid stating her position on Keystone while still looking Mass Sep 2015 #11
I Agree - It's A Deflection So She Doesn't Have To Make A Committment Either Way.....nt global1 Sep 2015 #13
It's not working. N/t azmom Sep 2015 #16
Got to shake it up a little, probably more bad FBI/email news coming out soon. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #12
She has withheld comment to allow the White House to make policy without Darb Sep 2015 #14
really? link to any evidence that she's been 'beleagured' by tea party types over cali Sep 2015 #18
You're right. They're are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #21
And that doesn't apply to foreign policy questions because.........? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #24
Except, she already played a big role in it at the beggining karynnj Sep 2015 #34
Teabag types = "Bernie people" -- Really? nichomachus Sep 2015 #83
I don't think the White House cares 840high Sep 2015 #99
Complete guess - She is angry that John Kerry and President Obama did not play the roles she karynnj Sep 2015 #20
excellent post, really shows what a bullshit bit of maneuvering cali Sep 2015 #28
your analysis sounds right to me. MBS Sep 2015 #91
As usual, she's still evolving. The direction of her evolution is still undecided. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #22
She doesn't know what the hell she's saying... SoapBox Sep 2015 #32
ugh the 1,001 ways I hate Hillary is back GitRDun Sep 2015 #36
It's kabuki theater. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #39
You'll never guess which way I voted -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #49
Friends of the Earth is a rightwing source. Who knew? AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #51
"Friends of the Earth is a rightwing source." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #54
in solidarity, cheers AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #56
Fuck. I'm a commie then. Sweet. :D roguevalley Sep 2015 #64
Wow. The more the alerts by the Hillionaires hifiguy Sep 2015 #71
lol TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #96
I was juror number 7. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #50
thanks for your vote! AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #52
Thanks for posting that amazing graphic. I've seen it before, but I never tire of it. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #73
great graphic questionseverything Sep 2015 #92
Don't know, but I hope the WH makes her sweat it out.. frylock Sep 2015 #41
Arrogant? You clearly don't get it Gman Sep 2015 #42
what nonsense. she's criticised him on foreign policy. cali Sep 2015 #43
she's using him as her excuse to make a position known. YOU DECIDE, OBAMA! THEN I WILL! roguevalley Sep 2015 #66
that "notice" could have been given privately restorefreedom Sep 2015 #59
Did she give notice when she flexed her muscles at Brookings a couple weeks ago? frylock Sep 2015 #65
In the world of DECENT people, you don't repay someone who appointed you to a high office by doing Skwmom Sep 2015 #93
... randys1 Sep 2015 #77
Beats the shit out of c-shell and Korn. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #97
Still poll testing pipeline? Biden gave opinion in 2013! people Sep 2015 #78
sounds like she's under the impression that the white house answers to her magical thyme Sep 2015 #79
I think she would prefer that the Obama administration decides Agnosticsherbet Sep 2015 #82
It's a threat..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #84
Well Obama had better decide quick because SHE's getting tired of waiting tularetom Sep 2015 #86
She is trying to sound decisive while not deciding anything. CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #89
She still has no position on Keystone AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #90
Why should a front runner commit to any remotely-controversial position? Utopian Leftist Sep 2015 #94
Only white priviledge DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #95
That really was a strange statement from her. 840high Sep 2015 #100
trying to sound forceful and tough while (as usual) refusing to express an opinion Doctor_J Sep 2015 #102
It is just a political maneuver to try to appear to be distancing hereself from President Obama Samantha Sep 2015 #103
She's saying that she's not only already the Dem nominee, delrem Sep 2015 #104
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