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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
9. Bernie voted for a nuclear compact.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:55 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:07 AM - Edit history (3)

The Facility was NEVER built at the Latino Community, listed in that lovely brochure put out by a Clinton Group (or another candidate who knows)

Though I'm sure the opposition research has long known about the Compact.

Texas was most likely going to build the facility without the compact. In the bill I read there was NO site specified and TX had control of where the site would be. In addition, with a compact they could limit the type of waste they received.

However, the site was later used to ship sludge from New York City.

Biden voted for it and Pres Clinton signed it into law.

http://www.umich.edu/~snre492/blanca.html

On the house floor:

This is not a political assertion, it is a geological and environmental reality. Furthermore, even if this compact is not approved, it is likely that Texas, which has a great deal of low-level radioactive waste, and we should make the point that 80 percent of the waste is coming from Texas, 10 percent from Vermont, 10 percent from Maine, the reality is that Texas will go forward with or without this compact in building a facility to dispose of their low-level radioactive waste.

If they do not have the compact, which gives them the legal right to deny low-level radioactive waste from coming from anyplace else in the country, it seems to me they will be in worse environmental shape than they are right now. Right now, with the compact, they can deal with the constitutional issue of limiting the kinds of waste they get.


Mr. Chairman, let me touch for a moment upon the environmental aspects of this issue. Let me address it from the perspective of someone who is an opponent of nuclear power, who opposes the construction of power plants and, if he had his way, would shut down the existing nuclear power plants as quickly and as safely as we could.

One of the reasons that many of us oppose nuclear power plants is that when this technology was developed, there was not a lot of thought given as to how we dispose of the nuclear waste. Neither the industry nor the Government, in my view, did the right thing by allowing the construction of the plants and not figuring out how we get rid of the waste.

But the issue we are debating here today is not that issue. The reality, as others have already pointed out, is that the waste is here. We cannot wish it away. It exists in power plants in Maine and Vermont, it exists in hospitals, it is here.

The gentleman from Texas [Mr. Reyes] a few moments ago said, `Who wants radioactive waste in their district?' I guess he is right. But do Members know what, by going forward with the nuclear power industry, that is what we have. So the real environmental issue here is not to wish it away, but to make the judgment, the important environmental judgment, as to what is the safest way of disposing of the nuclear waste that has been created. That is the environmental challenge that we face.

The strong environmental position should not be and cannot be to do nothing, and to put our heads in the sand and pretend that the problem does not exist. It would be nice if Texas had no low-level radioactive waste, or Vermont or Maine or any other State. That would be great. That is not the reality. The environmental challenge now is, given the reality that low-level radioactive waste exists, what is the safest way of disposing of that waste.

Leaving the radioactive waste at the site where it was produced, despite the fact that that site may be extremely unsafe in terms of long-term isolation of the waste and was never intended to be a long-term depository of low-level waste, is horrendous environmental policy. What sense is it to say that you have to keep the waste where it is now, even though that might be very environmentally damaging? That does not make any sense at all.

No reputable scientist or environmentalist believes that the geology of Vermont or Maine would be a good place for this waste. In the humid climate of Vermont and Maine, it is more likely that groundwater will come in contact with that waste and carry off radioactive elements to the accessible environment.

There is widespread scientific evidence to suggest, on the other hand, that locations in Texas, some of which receive less than 12 inches of rainfall a year, a region where the groundwater table is more than 700 feet below the surface, is a far better location for this waste.


http://www.c-span.org/congress/bills/billAction/?print/1410681

He hates Latinos too? arcane1 Sep 2015 #1
K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #2
because he hates latinos even more than he hates poor people.... mike_c Sep 2015 #3
And Uruguayans too. He hates the everliving shit out of them. No one knows why. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #34
Where does his hatred of Latinos and poor rank with his hatred of blacks and gays? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #69
No candidate is perfect geek75 Sep 2015 #4
He voted for a compact. It was never built there. But later on New York sent its toxic sludge Skwmom Sep 2015 #11
Sanders is the best we have geek75 Sep 2015 #90
Aw, is this the best you got? jkbRN Sep 2015 #5
Had nothing to do with a poor Latino community. djean111 Sep 2015 #6
He's done nothing in Congress except single-handedly forced through every bit of legislation.... villager Sep 2015 #27
I know - you would think there would be more story coordination, right? djean111 Sep 2015 #49
They think each issue drop exists in a vacuum. It's hilarious watching the Hillionaires flail. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #102
Because he hates minorities, obviously. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #7
why did hillary vote for a destructive, costly, and divisive war of choice? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #8
A war that slaughtered the fuck out of hundreds of thousands of souls. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #36
it is amazing restorefreedom Sep 2015 #43
Bernie voted for a nuclear compact. Skwmom Sep 2015 #9
In the bill I read there was no site designated and it NEVER built at that site. Skwmom Sep 2015 #13
Paul Wellstone disagreed Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Skwmom Sep 2015 #59
I'm going to guess its because they don't have proper facilities in Vermont. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #10
As a guess, I'd go with that. cheapdate Sep 2015 #31
Why didn't you find out before you posted? Vattel Sep 2015 #12
Why did Hillary vote to drop cluster bombs on children? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #14
Here is the result of her policies on brown children in Libya. artislife Sep 2015 #21
That punches you right in the heart, doesn't it. polly7 Sep 2015 #62
She came. She saw. They died in horrible agony. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #37
Not dealing with the question treestar Sep 2015 #68
why does Bernie support drones? R B Garr Sep 2015 #88
And she's pro-death penalty which is extremely racist. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #106
Hillary should raise the issue in the debates. I'm sure she'll NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #15
They already tried to smear him with the lgbt community. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #16
Who is this "they" that you refer to? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #24
So you're falling back on the Bernie hates minorities meme? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #28
5:35:00 in this video (near the end of the video Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #33
Her husband , the president, signed the bill on september 28.1998 according to the first link. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #17
When has the big fan there JackInGreen Sep 2015 #64
Perhaps they will inform us that it was Bernie, and ONLY Bernie, that forced Clinton NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #81
Which debates? DWS is holding all of them off. n/t Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #51
There was some dumpinp, but it wasn't VT, it was New York. Skwmom Sep 2015 #18
the Texas Commission in 1998 Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #25
Everything I've read said the compact was not open ended. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #76
There was a loophole there, though Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #82
Did you realize Bill Clinton signed the Bill into law? Skwmom Sep 2015 #19
It had 11 Dem and 11 Rep cosponsors, and Biden voted Yea. MindfulOne Sep 2015 #22
Yet another of the reasons Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #42
But wait, I thought that Bernie never got anything done!!!11!! MindfulOne Sep 2015 #20
OMG!!! An actual anti-Sanders post!!! They do exist!!! Thor_MN Sep 2015 #23
Because corporatist Dems were pro-nulear power. CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #26
Argo... HERVEPA Sep 2015 #29
a DUer posted an excerpt from Bernie's statement at the time of his vote. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #30
That's what I remember too but the Clinton machine has been busy smearing the record. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #32
That's the problem Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #35
S a matter of geology. We need to stop building nuclear pWhere the waste goes iower plants, but JDPriestly Sep 2015 #44
and nuclear waste as a result of medicine (low grade radioactive material) Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #45
Vermont is located in a major population center ecologically Armstead Sep 2015 #46
The Rio Grande Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #47
Good point. Unfortunately this ws a Hobson's Choice Armstead Sep 2015 #61
But the site was specifically known Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #65
Politics is filled with choices between bad and worse Armstead Sep 2015 #95
True enough Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #96
Why did Hillary vote for a war that killed half a million people and created millions of refugees? Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #39
Bash Bernie! BASH BASH!! morningfog Sep 2015 #40
Here, use this: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #41
Trash canning this turd op. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #48
If we are digging up 17 year old records, can we have a word about Mrs. Clinton's vile remarks Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #50
Because he obviously Turbineguy Sep 2015 #52
He didn't want it dumped in Vermont? leftofcool Sep 2015 #53
I heard that he was looking for a place with orphans where he could dump it. delrem Sep 2015 #54
Actually, he was looking for a site full of cute kittens Armstead Sep 2015 #92
Because Texas was actively courting the business. Vinca Sep 2015 #55
Why not dump it in downtown Dallas then? leftofcool Sep 2015 #56
You'd have to ask Dallas or the developers of the waste site. Vinca Sep 2015 #57
I am an old cynic who just can't get past the words safe and guarded leftofcool Sep 2015 #60
The best case scenario would have been no nukes anywhere ever. Vinca Sep 2015 #63
A nice pristine white state Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #66
If this has been Hillary, we would never hear the end of how she is in the pocket of nuclear dumpers leftofcool Sep 2015 #73
FTR. I'm not a Hillary supporter but you are right Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #79
I don't think it's a matter of rich or poor community, it's a matter of space. Vinca Sep 2015 #86
That is just ridiculous. Vinca Sep 2015 #85
But it's a "white" state and Bernie hates brown people. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #91
It's going to come as a shock to some of the people I see every day over in Vermont Vinca Sep 2015 #93
I'm a Vermonster, Vinca! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #94
I'm a native Vermonter, too, currently living across the river in NH. Vinca Sep 2015 #104
Thanks! I'm still in culture shock. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #105
Back in the time of dinosaurs, I lived in Daytona Beach, Florida. Vinca Sep 2015 #108
I can smell the leaves and wood smoke now... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #109
Not Good Enough, Bernie! MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #58
Wow workinclasszero Sep 2015 #67
More intential lies posted from Camp Weathervane LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #70
What part is the lie? That he sponsored it or got it through Congress? leftofcool Sep 2015 #72
It is a lie of omission, knowingly told by her campaign LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #77
See post #79 leftofcool Sep 2015 #84
Were they going to just dump it in the streets and backyards? MineralMan Sep 2015 #71
Funny, I just read here on DU that it was safely stored and under guard. leftofcool Sep 2015 #74
It's sort of safely stored, temporarily, onsite. MineralMan Sep 2015 #75
That is my problem with nuclear energy. leftofcool Sep 2015 #87
Exactly Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #89
Texas is a fucked up state that was going to dump there anyways. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #78
Neither Paul Wellstone nor his constituents Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #80
This and the JSF attacks are just silly Recursion Sep 2015 #83
Wyldwolf, there is an interesting name at this link. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #97
fascinating. wyldwolf Sep 2015 #98
I think so. Nt NCTraveler Sep 2015 #100
I took a screen shot of that just in case it disappears or something. leftofcool Sep 2015 #101
In 2010 Sanders held rallies to help Shumlin in a tight race. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #107
Wow! leftofcool Sep 2015 #99
It's on her linked in page so I'm sure it's been known for a long time. Skwmom Sep 2015 #110
In my op yesterday I posted her LinkedIn link. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #111
Probably for the same reason Bernie has refused to rule out a national puppy eating day. pa28 Sep 2015 #103
Why did Bill Clinton sign it into law? MiaCulpa Feb 2016 #112
who knows? Next time he runs for President I'll ask. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #113
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