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2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:33 AM Oct 2015

Which matters more? [View all]

Bernie having a not-totally perfect(but still strong) record on guns? Or HRC's IWR vote and her continued refusal to apologize for it?

A case can be made that a lot of lives were lost either way, after all.

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	Bernie's position on guns
	2 (10%)
	HRC's position on the war
	19 (90%)
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Which matters more? [View all] Ken Burch Oct 2015 OP

It's really crazy how much Bernie has been attacked on guns jfern Oct 2015 #1

Depends Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2

At least 500,000 Iraqis(by most estimates)died in that war, some say over a million. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #3

Yes. Something is truly fucked, when I think "USA and GUNS". delrem Oct 2015 #9

new day same smear. she has said her vote was wrong, multiple times. nt msongs Oct 2015 #4

That she finally said it was wrong, doesn't erase the horror. delrem Oct 2015 #10

thats one hell of a BIG "wrong" reddread Oct 2015 #20

She's the frontrunner. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #5

They were saying the same thing about her 8 years ago jfern Oct 2015 #6

They said what eight years ago? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #7

She was up 27 points at this time 8 years ago jfern Oct 2015 #8

Try to stay on topic. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #11

Of course it made the difference in 2008 jfern Oct 2015 #12

Were you actually around in 2008? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #13

Are you saying that something would be less likely to change the outcome jfern Oct 2015 #14

What I am saying ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #15

I bet a lot don't remember that vote jfern Oct 2015 #16

Or maybe since millions voted for Kerry who also voted for the IWR that it would be hypocritical to seaglass Oct 2015 #17

Hillary has more of a record of being a hawk than Kerry jfern Oct 2015 #25

Oh, I see. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #33

Your reply doesn't make any sense. n/t NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #29

I was here in 2008 & the "Hillary because... woman" cadre was just as strong & cpompilo Oct 2015 #27

No such thing. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #28

she is doomed. reddread Oct 2015 #21

She's the frontrunner. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #31

Option 3: Both of their positions going forward. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #18

excellent points! restorefreedom Oct 2015 #24

Hillary's IWR vote (nt) bigwillq Oct 2015 #19

Not even close. 99Forever Oct 2015 #22

The IWR resolution vote was treasonous Hydra Oct 2015 #23

War is preventable Kalidurga Oct 2015 #26

By far, Hillary's vote to invade Iraq. The repercussions are still resonating. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #30

It's not just the Iraq war it's her stand on any war. Iran, Russia Autumn Oct 2015 #32

The war vote bothered me in 2008 and it does now Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #34

the IWR is extremely important in light of the presence. sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #35