2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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11. But, see, there is no way to do that.

Reply to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:10 PM

Oct 2015

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So, it won't happen. Besides, Presidents can't cut Social Security in the first place or remove the cap.

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Clinton's direct quote: I would NOT favor raising retirement age" [View all] KittyWampus Oct 2015 OP

I would not favor giving you twenty bucks HassleCat Oct 2015 #1

You don't have any real points so you will make some up upaloopa Oct 2015 #14

I will ignore your smartass attitude and explain my point HassleCat Oct 2015 #33

Very charitable, like a real Dem. nt artislife Oct 2015 #83

Good on you for explaining! I see no response.. jkbRN Oct 2015 #85

!!! Phlem Oct 2015 #84

Semantical arguments, so this is what DU is reduced to.....the whole site is being made pathetic Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #88

OK Colonel. Phlem Oct 2015 #92

That seems to be happening a lot leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #2

What's behind it is blind hatred of Hillary Clinton. MineralMan Oct 2015 #10

There was an Obama one just lately. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #39

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #54

Skip back to 2008, tell me what your search produces. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #57

It's obvious and shameful, too. Wonder what horrid name will come to the fore for her? MADem Oct 2015 #81

Theodore Roosevelt Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #96

+1,000 Scuba Oct 2015 #105

THANK YOU so much for posting this! I heard her in the debate. ViseGrip Oct 2015 #3

Extreme desperation. Seeing more an more of it. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #4

Because some people don't like the words she used, I guess. MineralMan Oct 2015 #5

Plus a million ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #6

Yes. lovemydog Oct 2015 #13

Nah, we just bothered to read ALL the words she used jeff47 Oct 2015 #20

No it's because people hear all the words she said azurnoir Oct 2015 #75

I guess because she didn't punctuate the sentence with "Death to oligarchs!" SunSeeker Oct 2015 #7

Clinton's direct quote: in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #8

But, see, there is no way to do that. MineralMan Oct 2015 #11

Sure there is. jeff47 Oct 2015 #19

Sure they can, by signing congressional bills that contain provisions to do so. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #37

Then go on to the next PARAGRAPH where she says she favors lifting the cap- KittyWampus Oct 2015 #52

Direct quote, please? frylock Oct 2015 #59

Oh, c'mon...get real. Once "the" point is made that they want to make they don't want to.... George II Oct 2015 #72

Desperate people do desperate things workinclasszero Oct 2015 #9

Because she also said, in the same explanation, "I would consider it". PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #12

How about her last sentence added to that? upaloopa Oct 2015 #18

There are things you have to be either for or against Armstead Oct 2015 #45

"I have YET to find any recommendation (raising ret. age) I would think would be suitable" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #61

PART of Clinton's direct quote: I would NOT favor raising retirement age" Autumn Oct 2015 #15

Hillary's DIRECT QUOTE....Filled with "ifs, ands or buts" Armstead Oct 2015 #16

It's called a sales pitch bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #38

Because she didn't stop with that one sentence. jeff47 Oct 2015 #17

Exactly, this isn't that complicated. I think some are being deliberately obtuse. Broward Oct 2015 #21

No she did not say she doesn't see any she likes upaloopa Oct 2015 #23

"But I have yet to find any recommendation that I would think would be suitable." jeff47 Oct 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Oct 2015 #32

Raising-the-Cap would hurt NONE of those people. They could retire On Time with FULL benefits. bvar22 Oct 2015 #46

And yet she couldn't even support that completely. jeff47 Oct 2015 #48

Here. I'll let Obama explain it from 2008: bvar22 Oct 2015 #51

Let's try this slowly Armstead Oct 2015 #28

she was talking about raising the cap in that paragraph-Not the retirement age. riversedge Oct 2015 #31

Wrong. jeff47 Oct 2015 #34

And you just confirmed the point of the OP, thanks: George II Oct 2015 #78

Thanks. just saw it so will leave it. riversedge Oct 2015 #82

Nope. Try reading allllllllll the way to the end of the paragraph jeff47 Oct 2015 #99

Right- she went on to say she favors raising the CAP, not retirement age. KittyWampus Oct 2015 #53

She said she wanted to LOOK at raising the cap. frylock Oct 2015 #58

She said she was open to raising the retirement age, and then moved on to "looking at" the cap. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #65

Nope. As many times as you repeat it, that won't change what she said: George II Oct 2015 #93

I would consider it. But I have yet to find any recommendation that I would think would be suitable jeff47 Oct 2015 #100

Thank you Kitty mcar Oct 2015 #22

And Another Thing.... Armstead Oct 2015 #24

She did not say any of that for SS yesterday at the town hall riversedge Oct 2015 #29

I did not see or listen to her Town Hall if it was a differernt one Armstead Oct 2015 #30

Hillary? bvar22 Oct 2015 #49

I have been hearing this very same crappola regarding Obama.....and it NEVER eventuates Sheepshank Oct 2015 #25

People with hair on fire make a difference in some cases Armstead Oct 2015 #42

Same with Social Security. bvar22 Oct 2015 #50

I think it started with the posting of the Alternet story-The headling was misleading but it you riversedge Oct 2015 #27

As long as you stopped reading before the part where she said she'd consider it. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #36

You obviously should work on your reading comprehension including the context of the story riversedge Oct 2015 #41

How is a quote different than context? Armstead Oct 2015 #43

Really. Here's the paragraph. jeff47 Oct 2015 #44

Her last sentence gives you your answer. bye now. Enough! riversedge Oct 2015 #91

as long as you consider the paragraph that came before and AFTER it... KittyWampus Oct 2015 #55

The paragraph before is about adding means testing, and after is about lifting the cap. jeff47 Oct 2015 #64

Not now but she might consider it in the future. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #86

"favor" is a bs doublespeak term restorefreedom Oct 2015 #35

Agreed: I hate it when politicians use that word. There's no conviction behind using that word. C Moon Oct 2015 #67

but its perfect for those who want wiggle room. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #95

Close, but not quite. Vattel Oct 2015 #40

It's not that hard to imagine. jeff47 Oct 2015 #66

This is HUGE fbc Oct 2015 #47

You are kidding, right? 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #62

I WOULD not favor raising retirement age.. frylock Oct 2015 #56

Yep. She always leaves herself loopholes big enough to drive a truck through. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #63

Are you sure she will not change her mind on this RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #60

Desperation. George II Oct 2015 #68

Because DU should be called Bash Clinton or Bash Obama underground. iandhr Oct 2015 #69

Heaven forfend we discuss issues and use the past words and actions of our candidates.. frylock Oct 2015 #73

"Would" strikes me as conditional. David__77 Oct 2015 #70

Because as her lead in the polls grow her opponents will become more vitriolic... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #71

+1 stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #74

+1 JoePhilly Oct 2015 #76

Some are at the point where they are just making stuff about her. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #79

When ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #102

Hillary is a war mongering Wall Street loving Gman Oct 2015 #77

Hillary Clinton is worried the raising the cap Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #80

I see this thread is sorely lacking in critical thinking and heavily Phlem Oct 2015 #87

Sounds pretty strong to me. Surprised anyone is questionong what she said. Hoyt Oct 2015 #89

Uhh maybe because politicians talk out their asses. Phlem Oct 2015 #94

Yes Sanders does too. He knows he has no chance to accomplish what he proposes. Hoyt Oct 2015 #97

Notice how i said "Politicians" Phlem Oct 2015 #98

Because they lie out of desperation. n/t Lil Missy Oct 2015 #90

you know this because......... Phlem Oct 2015 #101

Because.... quickesst Oct 2015 #103

Supporting your candidate is good, I guess HassleCat Oct 2015 #104

More weasel words from the Queen of Camp Weathervane. Her chumming with Pete Peterson tells ... Scuba Oct 2015 #106

Because they can't win by telling the truth. Cha Oct 2015 #107