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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
16. Totally agree about public money for elections, disagree with the rest of your post
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:29 PM
Oct 2015

I support Sanders for a number of reasons, foremost among them is that he refuses the very money you want to get out of politics. If Hillary was worth her rhetoric, she would refuse corporate money for the primary, Bernie is, and it would be a fair fight. She doesn't need it for the primary, yet uses it anyway, because that's who she is and who she represents.

The DLC/Third Way was actually started by representatives of large corporate interest, not by Dems frustrated that they were losing. There have been a ton of great OP's on this site about it, some of them by MadFloridian or whatever her user name is. It was their way to move the whole spectrum and frame of debate away from populist interests. You seem pretty uninformed, frankly.

How are you working to change campaign finance laws? I like groups like RootStrikers, they are serious about it.

I also like, and have myself advocated for, the idea of setting up a mechanism for swapping public money for corporate money, allowing honest candidates to get their money the right way without unilaterally disarming. Sanders has co-sponsored legislation to do just that. So on that, you and I agree.

Another way to be comng up with a mechanism for stamping a candidate with some widely recognized certification, not black and white but showing degrees of corporate sponsorship, with the ability to drill down into it by donor/relevant issue, and make it socially uncool to vote for anyone accepting such money. It could effectively neutrailze campaign ad buys, since the ad buys would just feed into the negative certification and people would turn off to the candidate.

None of this would do a damn thing to get Wall St. out of Hillary's pockets. The best way to do that is to support Sanders. Rewriting the laws will take a long butter struggle if we ever are able to do it. So will the other things. Start now, with a candidate who actually lives what you say you want.

Well, not EXACTLY what she said, now is it! randys1 Oct 2015 #1
I agree...but look at that last line. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #3
Lift the cap for sure. And she is wrong to leave even this much open, for sure. randys1 Oct 2015 #4
Really? I can't even imagine that dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #11
Why was 3rd way or DLC created? Democrats were tired of losing to the assholes randys1 Oct 2015 #14
Totally agree about public money for elections, disagree with the rest of your post dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #16
It would take a political revolution azmom Oct 2015 #13
I am honestly up for that, BTW randys1 Oct 2015 #15
Uhhhh. Get Wall Street out of her pockets? How about getting these political pros erronis Oct 2015 #18
Not exactly a resounding condemnation of it, is it? If someone can come up with a way to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #6
I'm not a laborer. She stated in plain english she would consider raising my retirement age. pa28 Oct 2015 #7
No.... daleanime Oct 2015 #21
Like I said in another thread today Faux pas Oct 2015 #2
Exactly. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #10
A smart woman which many believe she is. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #5
Yes, she's more or less ASKING her Think Tanks to come up with something she can support. And they sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #8
+++ up the chain of comments. erronis Oct 2015 #19
Lol, perfect description, 'transormer'! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #22
Makes sensible sense to me! phantom power Oct 2015 #9
"25 sure-ways to disguise the taste of cat-food, more or less" BlueJazz Oct 2015 #12
I want my COLA back Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #17
So, why doesn't she retire and illustrate how comfortable it can be. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #20
I'd like to hear her explain why she said that. pa28 Oct 2015 #28
She's NOT in favor of raising the retirement age. Period. George II Oct 2015 #23
But she would consider it even though she doesn't favor it. pa28 Oct 2015 #24
Then what is she in favor of? This has been a known problem since before Reagan was President. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #25
She could have said that JackInGreen Oct 2015 #26
The easiest, fairest way to "fix" SS is to lift the cap on FICA taxes, as Sanders is proposing. stopbush Oct 2015 #27
She's planning to work until she's 77 6chars Oct 2015 #29
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