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sabrina 1

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16. Then explain to me how you would know that someone you never met has done nothng to preserve SS??

Reply to floriduck (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 06:42 PM

Oct 2015

That's why I asked, I had no memory of every meeting someone who claimed to know my history on this issue.

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Hillary's direct quote on Raising the Retirement age: 'I would consider it'! [View all] sabrina 1 Oct 2015 OP

Since we're quoting it, you should update your OP title. Agschmid Oct 2015 #1

I will update this when the other OP is updated. I at least posted the full quote. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3

You did... Agschmid Oct 2015 #5

I will edit that. But to be frank, I was under the impression that details don't matter much on DU sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #18

Yah I think that's pretty true on both sides. Agschmid Oct 2015 #19

No, it's not actually. I know that for a fact. But I see no point in maintaining an ethical sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #34

So again I guess I'm a Hillary supporter who bucks the trend... Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

Well we will have to agree to disagree on who is disrupting this site. I am working hard for Bernie sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #98

I'd like to know where those other Bernie-loving places are, if you would, please PM.... Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #115

100 days until the first primary davidpdx Oct 2015 #102

" I would **not** favor raising the retirement age" - just for details sake Sheepshank Oct 2015 #25

Unfortunately she went on to say how, if someone could present her with a way to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #100

I'm glad you're still here. You know why? PatrickforO Oct 2015 #33

That's a great reply, man. DocMac Oct 2015 #60

A point should be made here. While Sanders supporters continue to discuss issues, HRC supporters rhett o rick Oct 2015 #32

Yes because we all do just that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #38

I see thread after thread discussing many issues and very rarely do rhett o rick Oct 2015 #45

Well, you tried. frylock Oct 2015 #67

I have tried maybe a hundred times to engage HRC supporters in honest discussions rhett o rick Oct 2015 #73

I'm not willing to engage in a "honest discussion" with you. Agschmid Oct 2015 #87

No HRC supporter will discuss issues. It's authoritarian worship. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #92

You are living in denial land. HRC supporters never talk to issues but throw ad hominem attacks. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #86

"You stand with Chevron"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #88

HRC supporters never discuss issues. Prove me wrong. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #91

On here there isn't much point... Agschmid Oct 2015 #95

True! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #62

Yep. All I hear from "them" is that she has great poll numbers, and that she "deserves it." reformist2 Oct 2015 #103

I got the gist . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #4

I wonder why the OP failed to bold this part of the quote?...... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #10

Well I think it's pretty clear why. Agschmid Oct 2015 #11

People including moi have posted the full paragraph numerous times Armstead Oct 2015 #90

Because there is more after that which leaves the door open Armstead Oct 2015 #89

From the article, "I would ***not*** favor raising the retirement age" Sheepshank Oct 2015 #23

Yeah well you have to choose your battles sometimes... Agschmid Oct 2015 #24

Misleading headline, you forgot the word ***NOT *** from the title in the OP Sheepshank Oct 2015 #41

Did you mean that for me? Agschmid Oct 2015 #43

Well...it was a tad misplaced Sheepshank Oct 2015 #46

No problem. Agschmid Oct 2015 #50

The only time Hillary contradicts herself, is when you listen to what she says . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #2

HA! ejbr Oct 2015 #57

The OP is essentially a lie. Sanders supporters must be desperate. If you gave a shit KittyWampus Oct 2015 #6

Hey, I just did what you did. Took a quote out of context and made it a headline. Then did what you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #8

Actually, it's your post that's the big lie. Here's your precious "next" paragraph - doesn't change in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #27

Thank you. I love how people whine when they post out of context quotes and then someone does the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #49

:) Aaaah...just playing with the kiddies. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #61

Yes, seriously just playing. This isn't a place to be serious anymore. But it is fun watching the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #63

Great strategy! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #65

In lieu of telling us how you feel about HRC's stand on SS, you choose to talk about rhett o rick Oct 2015 #47

Thatagirl, floriduck Oct 2015 #7

'swishy' I will add that to the list of words used to attack Democrats who have fought for the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #9

clip, and paste and highlight misleading quotes...typical Sheepshank Oct 2015 #12

Yes, that is exactly right. And why I posted THIS OP. Did you go into the OP that inspired this one sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #15

Cherry picking, and out of context heading.....now who in the hell from the left does that? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #48

So you object to the other OP that 'cherry picked' a quote, and worse, didn't even include the full sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #54

I'm that post was talking about Hillary... Agschmid Oct 2015 #13

I don't think we've ever met. floriduck Oct 2015 #14

Then explain to me how you would know that someone you never met has done nothng to preserve SS?? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #16

Yah... Agschmid Oct 2015 #20

Thank you for understanding that. floriduck Oct 2015 #39

Everyone is on the defensive around here so I can understand the mistake Sabrina made. Agschmid Oct 2015 #40

I'd love to know what "way" she could find that would NOT penalize certain types of CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #17

That's THE question, isn't it? Who does she WANT to punish and penalize? And what does that kind sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #21

Yes...the words "punish" and "penalize" show her mindset loud and clear. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #22

Sickening to me. Coming from such a very privileged woman. I guess I would be among those she wants sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #26

I don't think Hillary was implying that some people deserve to be penalized. Maedhros Oct 2015 #30

You know, I don't think she cares about truck drivers or laborers CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #36

I don't think she really has puppet masters. She is one of them at least in the PR/political arm TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #64

Good point, but didn't Third Way officials warn her the other day not to CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #66

Yeah, framing. That and the money bags have become insanely thin skinned TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #79

Reagan raised it from 65 to 67 for those born 1960 or later jfern Oct 2015 #28

It was raised by the bi-partisan "Greenspan commission". PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #35

yes, I'm not sure why "I would consider it" is so hard for the fan club to understand Doctor_J Oct 2015 #29

That's not the talk of a "progressive". nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #42

Hillary talks out of both sides of her mouth. Broward Oct 2015 #31

Thank you!!! And that sums up how she works! SoapBox Oct 2015 #51

lmao oh my sides retrowire Oct 2015 #44

She's a corporate "Democrat" which is little more than a Nixon Republican emsimon33 Oct 2015 #52

Raising the retirement age to keep Social Security solvent is just stupid. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #53

Agreed Sheepshank Oct 2015 #55

Right, and while you've called her out on it, you refuse to condemn the other thread.. frylock Oct 2015 #68

It also can only shrink wages over careers as well. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #74

The biggest problem Social Security has is dirty fucks trying to kill it. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #82

Didn't Obama already destroy Social Security? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #56

Didn't Bush privatize it? He proposed chained CPI in broad daylight, your flippant "response" TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #75

You mean he dangled a carrot in front of the crazies. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #85

Why? And why didn't he dangle some other carrot? Stop the nonsense, he is FOR Chained CPI made sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #99

Past Obama budget proposals included the chained CPI. Broward Oct 2015 #104

So basically, I'm keeping my options open? Phlem Oct 2015 #58

Still waiting homegirl Oct 2015 #59

One politician has. Bernie Sanders! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #69

Obama said he favored that, but it didn't happen when Democrats controlled Congress PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #81

Maybe she will. Maybe she won't. And, that's a promise! Either way, it will be a "Hard Choice" Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #70

True. We'll have to wait and see, I suppose. But I'm with the candidate who doesn't seem to have a sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #71

Me too. HRC seems to consider non-choices "hard", CYA kinda, maybe, choices not so "hard". Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #96

When would you consider the Gold Standard not to be the Gold Standard aspirant Oct 2015 #72

A good leader should "consider" everything. Good decisions are made after consideration of kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #76

"Consider everything" aspirant Oct 2015 #77

Explaiin that please. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #78

If I could figure out a way to eat, clothe, house ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #80

Excuse me? We are not talking about people who are criminals here, though I can't blame you for sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #83

You are becoming more and more "interesting" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #84

She just SAID 'I would consider it'! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #93

Let me ask ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #106

How about she simply were to say... Armstead Oct 2015 #94

She can't speak in a straightforward manner because her pollsters tell her to speak about a given Bernblu Oct 2015 #97

Probably because politicians (and, Diplomats), which ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #105

Since those are all so nebulous it woud be safe to say no Armstead Oct 2015 #107

So it boils down to ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #108

It boils down to always being that way Armstead Oct 2015 #109

Social Security retirement age has been on track to go up BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #101

And every effort should be made to stop the Republicans and their bosses from raising it anymore. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #111

And Hillary would consider raising it, yet again Oilwellian Oct 2015 #112

As someone who is too young to collect SS but too old glinda Oct 2015 #110

I'm sorry Glinda, you are not alone at all, and unless you are a construction worker, truck driver sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #113

Because giving the GOP whatever they want is 'pragmatic' AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #114