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Showing Original Post only (View all)Hillary WILL NOT Lobby Against The TPP [View all]
According to a tweet from Dan Merica at CNN, he asked Hillary if she plans on lobbying against the TPP while Congress mulls putting it up for a vote. Her response was that she will, State my position, but not actively lobby against it.
Is this the kind of leadership we should expect from the potential Democratic nominee? To me, if she truly wants to embody the role as a leader on the left (and a so called Progressive) she would not only be lobbying against this crappy trade deal now before a potential vote, but she would have also stated her opposition and lobbied against it before the Fast Track vote earlier this summer. Alas, we were disappointed then as well, and it passed. I believe if Hillary voiced her opposition during this crucial vote we would not have seen 28 Democrats voting for Fast Track, and it would have failed.
This is simply another reason why I cant vote for her, in the primary or general election. Hillary Clinton is not trustworthy. This trade deal will completely gut the middle class while benefiting only the top 10% in the US if it passes. I dont believe Hillary has truly opposed this deal either. Again, she demonstrated excellent political calculus in saying that she doesnt support it in its present form. What exactly does she not like about it? Does this mean she will change her opinion once (if) she is elected?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/10/1448087/-Hillary-will-not-lobby-against-the-TPP
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Clinton asked if she is going to lobby against the TPP. "No. I am going to state my position" but not lobby against it, she says.
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Clinton asked if she is going to lobby against the TPP. "No. I am going to state my position" but not lobby against it, she says.
Is this the kind of leadership we should expect from the potential Democratic nominee? To me, if she truly wants to embody the role as a leader on the left (and a so called Progressive) she would not only be lobbying against this crappy trade deal now before a potential vote, but she would have also stated her opposition and lobbied against it before the Fast Track vote earlier this summer. Alas, we were disappointed then as well, and it passed. I believe if Hillary voiced her opposition during this crucial vote we would not have seen 28 Democrats voting for Fast Track, and it would have failed.
This is simply another reason why I cant vote for her, in the primary or general election. Hillary Clinton is not trustworthy. This trade deal will completely gut the middle class while benefiting only the top 10% in the US if it passes. I dont believe Hillary has truly opposed this deal either. Again, she demonstrated excellent political calculus in saying that she doesnt support it in its present form. What exactly does she not like about it? Does this mean she will change her opinion once (if) she is elected?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/10/1448087/-Hillary-will-not-lobby-against-the-TPP
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I'm sure there will be "new information" she "discovers", to justify it though. nt
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#121
At least I posted a link to an article. You should read it, it won't hurt.
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#166
Its based on a research book called The Authoritarian Specter, by Bob Altemeyer
LiberalLovinLug
Nov 2015
#179
Actually, I'm actually quite respectful of the adult lefties of the party.
ConservativeDemocrat
Nov 2015
#218
We need a spy over there. They have lists. And they monitor the Bernie Sanders Group
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#117
Eventually someone will spill the beans and show us interesting screenshots.
BeanMusical
Nov 2015
#142
Yes I agree. Those types of groups always implode. It usually turns out to be
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#165
Hey, at least that's consistent with going to the NASDAQ and telling them to knock it off.
SheilaT
Nov 2015
#22
So since the TPP text is now available, please point me to the exact sections
Persondem
Nov 2015
#36
Show me one passage that actually has an enforcement mechanism with teeth to stop any
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#40
I know it. The one-sided language is a farce. But here's the kicker. Even though the
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#49
I know there is enforcement to help them screw us, I meant the humanitarian causes you cited.
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#51
Look, I get that past trade deals have not been all that well done. But I do think
Persondem
Nov 2015
#56
I respect that you are trying to look at it fair handedly. That's great. But my opinion, which
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#69
That's beside the point. The "money" comes from American taxpayers and goes to corporations.
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#103
Why does any country enter into any trade agreement? If it is not going to follow the
Persondem
Nov 2015
#120
So along with that nice bag of generalities not based on the actual document
Persondem
Nov 2015
#158
I don't want a way for artificial persons to make an end run around democatic governments
Jack Rabbit
Nov 2015
#172
You need a lesson on rhetoric. "This section allows" Do you not see that "allows" is not binding?
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#118
Allow can mean a lot of things. Could you give me the exact location or quote please? nt
Persondem
Nov 2015
#119
We are nameless, faceless little people up against her billionaire friends. Who is she going to side
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#37
We are but grist for the mill, while Hillary is driving the steamroller.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2015
#132
Well there are so many of us, and we whine incessantly about jobs, and food and stuff.
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#139
Of course not. Just like she didn't speak out before Fast Track passed. Then after it passed PRESTO!
think
Nov 2015
#48
It is no surprise at all that she came out against the TPP once fast track was past
davidpdx
Nov 2015
#134
Well, she is claiming to be a strong leader, and running for a leadership position.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#112
SO, no single-payer advocacy, silence on the TPP, extremely likely further warmongering, etc, etc
stupidicus
Nov 2015
#73
This really ticks me off. Can you Hillary supporters not see the writing on the wall? She's a liar.
YOHABLO
Nov 2015
#86
And she shouldn't. Let Bernie do it. That too will come back to haunt him. nt
kelliekat44
Nov 2015
#94
Hillary and Wall Street Dems care more about India, China than USA. Seriously. They are bored
whereisjustice
Nov 2015
#115
She thinks people are stupid enough to not realize that her "position" is just for show
jfern
Nov 2015
#123
K&R. Compare to Bernie who is opposed to the TPP and will do all he can to stop its passage.
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#128
Clearly, now there is a difference between Bernie and Hillary that is real and substantial.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2015
#131
She has "Never bite the hand that feeds you (or, pays you to entertain them)" down pat.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#207