2016 Postmortem

DirkGently

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53. The more you look at it, the more

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 08:41 PM

Nov 2015

calculated it starts to appear.

1. Deflects the question of why Wall Street donates so heavily to her.

2. Wraps itself in the bloody shirt of 9/11, suggesting to question it would be unpatriotic.

3. Insinuates that all of the calls for Wall Street reform are -- as you point out in the OP -- giving terrorists what they want.

4. Consciously ... or unconsciously (and which one is worse, I am not sure) draws on the raw emotions about terrorism in the wake of the Paris attacks.

5. Shows a total lack of awareness of how her own admitted poor judgment regarding our response to 9/11 via a destructive war in Iraq that actually contributed to the rise of ISIS makes her the last person on the stage who should be invoking her personal logic about 9/11.

This is not a wise or helpful approach for Ms. Clinton.

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Hillary Clinton: Regulate Wall Street and the Terrorists Win [View all] nashville_brook Nov 2015 OP

Another anti-Hillary pro-bernie hit piece. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #1

It's a local Dem website, actually. DirkGently Nov 2015 #3

20,000 posts from 2004. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #4

That's "since" 2004, silly. And it remains a Dem website DirkGently Nov 2015 #9

LoL.. mmmhmm. Its a Clinton hit piece. One sided view. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #17

Do you have a substantive response to the post? DirkGently Nov 2015 #20

amazing how even when she speaks her slag roguevalley Nov 2015 #40

I've tried to explain this to conservatives (Dem and otherwise) before DirkGently Nov 2015 #70

Great observation. klook Nov 2015 #103

+!! It is an interesting phenomenon, one worthy of the Twilight Zone. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #112

yeah right she is the RW PatrynXX Nov 2015 #49

actually, it's quite different. i wish clinton could deliver something of value for the party nashville_brook Nov 2015 #71

sez the poster with 10 years LESS on this board than i, and 4 hidden posts :) nashville_brook Nov 2015 #86

to say nothing of being self described as high and wasted. nt grasswire Nov 2015 #154

As if it were the only one. artislife Nov 2015 #12

Truth hurts ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #18

Agreed! left on green only Nov 2015 #62

Even Stephanie Cutter, floriduck Nov 2015 #38

And your response is? 840high Nov 2015 #46

Why is the truth about Hillary always Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #47

Take to to the next level: Claim dissing the banks is against the party too. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #55

Wrong. It's standing up to the big money who side you apparently like. It's time to throw rhett o rick Nov 2015 #87

As if having a candidate that is against regulating and breaking up fraudulent banks.. raindaddy Nov 2015 #134

Another anti-Hillary pro-bernie hit piece. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #139

they do always treat any dissent as dangerous radicalism MisterP Nov 2015 #2

i remember the first time in high school that students assembled for a "pep rally" nashville_brook Nov 2015 #19

many, many are uncomfortable with the whole "chanting body wall" approach MisterP Nov 2015 #28

It's an authoritarian approach. senz Nov 2015 #45

the point is to empty out politics: you don't support a candidate for their policies, you support MisterP Nov 2015 #52

great post, especially find your last sentence interesting. n/t truedelphi Nov 2015 #69

hey, it's how any good cult works: they have to run off cliches rather than reality, after all MisterP Nov 2015 #73

mindblown. that is how you'd hollow out politics, isn't it? nashville_brook Nov 2015 #82

+++ I think of this dynamic DirkGently Nov 2015 #133

we should just be highly suspicious of anyone who wants us to hotwire the amygdala :) nashville_brook Nov 2015 #157

There was a teacher in my high school who got himself into all sorts of trouble dflprincess Nov 2015 #59

after the first one i asked if i could be excused to go to the library nashville_brook Nov 2015 #85

if i could be excused to go to the library AlbertCat Nov 2015 #142

Lemmings! Plucketeer Nov 2015 #136

Maybe I should cut and paste funny looking pictures of Senator Sanders Rose Siding Nov 2015 #5

Ah. That's what I thought. It's the unflattering photo of HRC that gets y'all. senz Nov 2015 #32

Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #94

i actually picked it b/c i liked her expression and thought she looked much younger and more nashville_brook Nov 2015 #110

It sure beats the one gif where she's looking smug and brushing off her shoulder... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #144

Barbara Bush came into focus for me when she said senz Nov 2015 #147

Oh, do I agree! Hepburn Nov 2015 #156

Care to refute the points in the post? paleotn Nov 2015 #37

It'd be an elevation of the Clinton follower rhetoric around here, actually Scootaloo Nov 2015 #58

How dare you ! TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #161

There was a secondary, somewhat subtle strategy that Hillary deployed against Bernie FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #6

indeed -- this is why I believe this is strategy and not simply tactic. nashville_brook Nov 2015 #7

The whole framing is demented. DirkGently Nov 2015 #24

Wall Street = American Democracy (don't believe the hype) nashville_brook Nov 2015 #44

The more you look at it, the more DirkGently Nov 2015 #53

Very Well Summarized - From The Preceding Insight - Not A Surprise - Regrettably cantbeserious Nov 2015 #61

spot-on deconstruction. nashville_brook Nov 2015 #118

where is that like button?? nt grasswire Nov 2015 #158

An obvious Panic Response, and very telling. DirkGently Nov 2015 #8

She fell apart on minimum wage too AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #11

And universal college education. I think of those other two DirkGently Nov 2015 #16

You nailed it n/t SmittynMo Nov 2015 #50

this was in incredibly bad faith. no one believes children of privilege go to public schools nashville_brook Nov 2015 #84

That "Trump's kids" comment makes me fume. MoonchildCA Nov 2015 #141

Any argument against full-throttle public education DirkGently Nov 2015 #145

.." and then she goes full dark.." artislife Nov 2015 #14

Cut it out. I said, cut it out! reformist2 Nov 2015 #15

... DirkGently Nov 2015 #21

bernie looked good also. Until his opening statement, that is. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #23

I'm sorry rynestonecowboy Nov 2015 #51

Welcome to DU! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #68

Lol, it appears neither side is giving up having the last word misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #124

Lets talk about how bernies MIC coziness and his profit before people. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #78

Wow, talk about a hit-piece! hueymahl Nov 2015 #107

Nope, its truth. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #114

The hypocrisy is yours hueymahl Nov 2015 #119

I have mentioned this subject many times. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #122

And you cling to it like a talisman hueymahl Nov 2015 #150

Hillary Clinton ranks fourth in contributions from defense contractors. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #116

Doesn't negate his MIC Corporate contract. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #120

But it does support her vote for war in Iraq OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #123

No no, stop making Bernies No Vote/Ye$ Vote into misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #126

Blah, blah, words. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #129

Which war candidate would that be? misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #131

The one who voted to destabilize Iraq and give birth to ISIS. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #135

So the MIC are morons? jeff47 Nov 2015 #143

Extremely biased wins it. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #95

The wealthy politicians could resolve their whole problem by pretending to be someone else LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #25

And there you have it. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #10

K&R! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #13

DURec. bvar22 Nov 2015 #22

K & R beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #26

Huh. She did a Jeb! Bush sarge43 Nov 2015 #27

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #29

For those who are "going back and forth" Maineman Nov 2015 #30

K & R AzDar Nov 2015 #31

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #33

Always remember angrychair Nov 2015 #34

^^THIS is astounding. nashville_brook Nov 2015 #72

Thanks! angrychair Nov 2015 #79

this needs an OP nt grasswire Nov 2015 #159

THiS ^ DirkGently Nov 2015 #128

She borrowed that line from the GOP. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does she think the 99% are the terrorists?! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #35

And I'm one of the women zentrum Nov 2015 #36

Preach It - Feeling The Bern cantbeserious Nov 2015 #57

just shouting about identity doesn't work for me anymore -- i have to see candidates actually doing nashville_brook Nov 2015 #74

Yup. Well said. zentrum Nov 2015 #80

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #96

K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #39

#WallStreetProfitablyMatters..... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #41

i can't believe that during the big week of NATIONAL Fight for $15 strikes, HRC thought $12 was nashville_brook Nov 2015 #75

Yep.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #76

K & R! SoapBox Nov 2015 #42

Huge K&R! NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #43

Frankly after last night think she's made sure whoever wins on the Right will get the Presidency PatrynXX Nov 2015 #48

I was thinking the same. She sealed her fate. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #98

And There It Is - We All Know The Truth - Still Many Pretend Otherwise cantbeserious Nov 2015 #54

Reading Through Many Of These Posts, I Who Will Fervently ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #115

Agreed - Very Well Said - Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Nov 2015 #127

Dear Hillary, Ever heard of Iceland? Hiraeth Nov 2015 #56

Worth pointing out DirkGently Nov 2015 #60

+100000 nashville_brook Nov 2015 #125

"There’s “winning ugly,” and then there’s becoming so ugly that you deserve to lose. This might be kath Nov 2015 #63

Totally inexcusable exploitation of tragedy - Trumpworthy Armstead Nov 2015 #64

I'm all for exposing Hillary for what she is...but passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #65

wow Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #66

At some point I expect her to say, "I support Wall Street and their isn't anything you can do rhett o rick Nov 2015 #67

Giuliani is exactly who I thought of when she invoked 9/11 as a defense for her taking huge sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #77

Yeah I found it strange that she would invoke 9/11 and women donors when asked about her d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #81

This blog article is ridiculous nonsense MaggieD Nov 2015 #83

"War, Gender and 9/11" cui bono Nov 2015 #88

more and more desperate! stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #89

Yes, I feel bad for Hillary. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #104

It was shameful, as is defending it. Scuba Nov 2015 #90

She should be toast for that remark only. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #91

At what point do you shift from DINO to RINO? hueymahl Nov 2015 #109

That question is quite easily answered: Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #130

The twin towers were a symbol of the oppression of the middle east daybranch Nov 2015 #92

You are so right smilingwen Nov 2015 #121

Awesome, except it's not what she said last night lovemydog Nov 2015 #93

I wasn't prepared to accept your argument... brooklynite Nov 2015 #97

Because 9/11! nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #99

Hillary Giuliani. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #100

By using September 11 as an excuse for Thespian2 Nov 2015 #101

+10000000 nashville_brook Nov 2015 #102

"the Terrorists Win": the talking heads on saidsimplesimon Nov 2015 #105

policy vs rhetoric nashville_brook Nov 2015 #108

She really has no shame. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #106

How could anyone believe this would play in Peoria? Enthusiast Nov 2015 #111

i bet there was the notion that the Paris attacks would stoke anti-terrorism sentiment nashville_brook Nov 2015 #117

. stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #113

That was a huge red flag! Proceed at your own risk raindaddy Nov 2015 #132

The Washington Post notes Wall Street supported Clinton before 9/11 DirkGently Nov 2015 #137

If billionaires, hedge fund managers and Wall Street bankers gave money away just because.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #138

Agree. They invest their billions in the political process to guarantee that we rhett o rick Nov 2015 #146

Terrific OP. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #140

K&R hedgehog Nov 2015 #148

Her record is so bad that she must resort to such tactics emsimon33 Nov 2015 #149

i still think she has a good chance of being president -- all the more reason nashville_brook Nov 2015 #151

I have been a political activist since I was 9 years old emsimon33 Nov 2015 #162

yep, you're right - i'm in FL and have seen way too many cycles of neoliberal Dems losing nashville_brook Nov 2015 #163

Trash Hillary if you like. But don't insult my comprehension skills! lexington filly Nov 2015 #152

tell that to the NY Times editorial board nashville_brook Nov 2015 #155

Yup. Pretty much what she said, invoking 9/11 to defend her ass from attacks on rich donors. EEO Nov 2015 #153

Not only does the OP make up stuff of what she Thinks Hilllary is thinking, but invokes the Paris riversedge Nov 2015 #160