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Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
25. Okay then... (cont)
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:30 PM
Feb 2013

First, let me say upfront that I have nothing but respect for your intelligence and understanding of these issues. You are one of only a few people here who's posts I ALWAYS take the time to read as you always have something interesting to say. With that out of the way... (Your comments quoted in BOLD)

"I suspect it isn't any one reason. I think one major contributing factor is the widespread acceptance of misogyny."

I agree 100%. It is self evident. Where we disagree is whether or not the tolerance of these posts is an indicator of misogyny at this corporation, or indifference to something they are powerless to address.

"As for your statement that women on Facebook "like what they see posted" ... I don't even know what to say. Just because women remain active users of facebook does not indicate that they're completely happy with everything posted on it, or the enforcement of community standards."

That was poorly stated on my part. Women obviously do not dislike the garbage enough to stop using Facebook. A half-billion women have accounts. I suspect -- and this harkens back to the first point -- that women are so used to an openly aggressively anti-female internet culture that they tolerate it at facebook (and everywhere else).

(This openly hostile internet culture is worth thinking about -- I have some thoughts on that myself but I am more interested in hearing yours.)

My objection here is aiming the criticisms at Facebook. All of the numbers I provided in previous posts are supported by the links I provided. The really do have about three-quarters of a million new accounts created every day, and 200 MILLION new images added daily as well. I believe that blaming Facebook is simply unreasonable. You are not asking them to better police something objective -- like nudity or racial profanity -- but something subjective. There is no possible way to do it -- we have a hard time even managing that HERE on DU -- and I doubt they have any interest in trying.

For a company like Facebook it's an impossible task, and in my opinion getting angry at this company for failing to do the impossible (particularly when they clearly have no financial incentive to bother) draws the wrong kind of attention to this issue. I don't know the answer, and in this particular case I am not convinced you do either.

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amen! n/t librechik Feb 2013 #1
Facebook's pretty well known for being Lowest Common Denominator malthaussen Feb 2013 #2
It is far from the lowest common denominator as far as hatred of women is concerned. redqueen Feb 2013 #3
same with racist pages noiretextatique Feb 2013 #4
It makes you wonder about who is reviewing these reports redqueen Feb 2013 #5
I wonder if there's any review process at all MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #19
Kick this to the greatest! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #6
I'm sorry, I know it's horrible... redqueen Feb 2013 #7
Why do women still use Facebook? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #8
Since it is the most popular and arguably the most robust networking tool redqueen Feb 2013 #9
No strategic retreat huh? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #12
Also, if we left every social media where women are treated like crap CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #18
Same here. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Feb 2013 #10
The good thing about twitter is there aren't any page owners to block you... redqueen Feb 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Feb 2013 #16
Yeah. Idiocracy. redqueen Feb 2013 #17
Facebook has over ONE BILLION user accounts Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #11
Yet they were able to catch those offensive cupcakes PDQ. Thise cupcakes are clearly what they Squinch Feb 2013 #13
I guess you missed my point Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #22
Yeah, no. If you read about the vastly differebt way they deal with breastfeeding pics, mastectomy redqueen Feb 2013 #14
Why do you suppose that is? Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #21
Why would you think your three ideas are the only possibilities? redqueen Feb 2013 #24
Okay then... (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #25
Thanks for your thoughtful reply, and your nice compliments. redqueen Feb 2013 #26
Nice post (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #27
An 'it gets better' campaign aimed at young women would be a cruel lie. redqueen Feb 2013 #28
As always, something to think about n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #30
FB has a problem with hate speech in general KamaAina Feb 2013 #20
DU has over a billion user accounts JustJoe Feb 2013 #23
Did you see this? ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #29
Oh yes. redqueen Feb 2013 #31
They can't be bothered to take down a rape joke gollygee Feb 2013 #32
It's a sign of the times. Breasts used for natural purpose = disgusting and obscene. redqueen Feb 2013 #33
pornified. yes. you and i are right there, lol. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #35
breast are for male entertainment, not feeding babies, dontcha know. we act surpised at this. but... seabeyond Feb 2013 #34
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