It's cute how some people act so aggrieved that they can't post in HoF. (HOF THREAD)

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Have you delivered this message to the men's group? Or is just women who have no right to find support from one another?

The attacks against us are invariably personal, unless of course someone is objecting to the horrors of men being prosecuted for rape or that women here have the nerve to post about issues someone else decides are insignificant, like domestic and sexual violence. Here is one space we don't have to justify our presence on this board. Why is that so offensive to you? Are you running around telling off all the other safe haven groups, or is just HOF women that have no right to choose the parameters of our own discussions?

I would never post most of what I do in HOF to the community at large. Why? Because I don't care to be told I brought on myself behaviors like intrusive sexual fantasites, shaming about my sexuality, or physical abuse. I don't want to hear about how much more important an abuser is that myself, and how his legal rights trump my speech. That is what would happen if I posted what I do here in GD. I would be ridiculed and attacked endlessly. What exactly is so important about opening myself up to that? The very basic principle that the personal is political is something that many people on this site don't get.

Here is a fact. If we post in GD, we are told off for it. Now we are told off because we post in HOF. At what point are we allowed to speak? Or is ridicule of people whose ideas are so resented by people whose version of liberalism excludes us so much more important than our concerns and well-being? They consider the very subjects we discuss entirely illegitimate, subjects that should not be allowed in public because it might make some man feel bad. I have no obligation to spend all my time in deference to such people.

If you don't like echo chambers, go to Yahoo or some such place. You don't seem to have any problem restricting Republicans, yet you are angry that women have a safe space where. This is 2014, not 1914. That you should find the mere existence of a feminist group objectionable in this century is unfortunate, but the problem is yours entirely.