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In reply to the discussion: An example of junk science re: objectification. [View all]hifiguy
(33,688 posts)34. I "throw out insults"
by questioning your knowledge of Darwinian natrual selection in one sentence at the end of a multi-paragraph post? That's the best you've got? How sad to be you.
Those of us trying to share our awe for this sublime illumination of human behavior are intimidated and embarrassed by these wacky attacks, which make it almost impossible to eradicate a perceived patronizing tone from a patient explaining that, actually, humans are animals; you cant have nurture without nature; evolutionary biology demonstrates that racism is not justified; girls and boys really do come into the world with overlapping but distinguishable interests and cognitive tradeoffs which have been traced to sex hormones in the womb and not to the blue or pink towel.
Hop on Google.video and watch the kindly old environmentalist E.O. Wilson discuss his Pulitzer Prize-winning book On Human Nature Does he seem like a guy with a secret agenda to justify rape? Are Wilson, Pinker, Dawkins, Wright et al. funded by a secret cabal of right wing conspirators? Or is it the other way around? Maybe its not evolutionary psychology, but its critique, that is driven by ideology.
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I keep a favorite cartoon on my Powerpoint presentation about evolutionary psychology that I give to college students. It has two panels. In panel one, a scientist is standing over a microscope and saying to his student, "Here are the facts. What conclusions can we draw from them?" In the second panel, a Creationist minister is holding the bible and saying to his student, "Here is the conclusion. What facts can we find to support it?"
When you lead with your ideals, sound conclusions will not result. They never do, simply because you decide a position is wrong or right before you learn what it says, and why it says it. When cultural constructivists accuse evolutionary psychologists of secret political objectives, theyre experiencing narcissism.
Joe Quirk, at http://hplusmagazine.com/2009/11/23/darwinian-psychologist-straw-mans-ass-kicked/ (emphasis added)
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" you sound like a climate-change denier?"" I am being thoroughly civil here." ah, no.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#14
you have made it clear since it made "peer-reviewed academic journal" it is valid.
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#15
totally amazing tying evo babble to this when from the day girls and boys are born they are taught
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#11
there is plenty of documentation that challenges this. you obviously did not read any of it. to me,
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#23
unilaterally attack Evolutionary Psychology is to deny that there is any part of human behaviour
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#25
i can say the same right back at you. so why bother? i have no desire to converse with a person
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#27
I am also having trouble seeing any assertion about natural behavior or evo-psych
MadrasT
Jul 2012
#4
evo babble dismisses all of history for the first moment in time. they ignore conditioning, nurture,
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#16
see... this is exactly the crap i am talking about. you define it thru this period of time
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#29
there are many explanations about the issues with evo psych. here are 6 major, not even the minor
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#21
this would be a never ending process we do with women. but hell, lets not consider
seabeyond
Jul 2012
#31