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merrily

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42. The fissures do not need identification. They've been known here since forever.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:14 AM
Jul 2015

One who seeks to divide probes along the lines--the fissures, if you prefer--of:

racial and ethnic minorities v. everyone else For example, some of the poorest whites considered themselves superior to all people of color, while some of the poorest people of color considered themselves superior to "white trash." I'd like to believe that being referred to as "white trash" involved a combination of white skin color and bad behavior, but I am not sure about that.

women v. everyone else and/or everyone else v. women

religion(s) v. each other and everyone else and/or everyone else v. one religion or all religions or all religions of a certain kind, such as all Christians or all Muslims or all Jews, regardless of how much diversity, and even bitterness/hatred may exist within any one group

poverty/wealth

class/education/the "right" lineage/social standing/power--not necessarily money, though money may be a part of it.

A "lesser Rockefeller," for example, whose share of the Rockefeller trust may be only $12K a year or zero, but who is still "a Rockefeller." Daughters of the American Revolution. Ditto, across the pond, a "minor royal." In the US, Boston was a bastion, much more so than NYC. See, J.P. Marquand's The Late George Apley. Though without any family money, they can still turn up their noses at, say a Trump. (Think, the Earl of Spencer's eulogizing Diana as "British to the core," being perceived as a swipe at the German origins of the Queen's nuclear family. Yet, he is struggling to finance his estate, ala Downton Abbey, while the Queen and Prince Charles, not so much.) Joe Kennedy Sr. was the Trump equivalent of his earlier years, but, as he intended and worked toward unceasingly, the Kennedy's are now considered "American Royalty." (Remember, FDR appointed Joe Sr. US Ambassador to the Court of St. James). The importance of this particular fissure has lessened in the last century, in the US, anyway. Since at least the 1950s, there have even been attacks on "elites", Ivy League educated people, college educated people ("ivory tower academics&quot , etc. Money and power now trump. (pun not intended, except maybe by my unconscious.)

state or regional lines

job/profession lines.

And none of these categories need be totally discrete. Someone may be more kindly disposed to a rich white or a poor white, for example, than they are to all other whites.

Bottom line: "the other" The ones who do not look and sound like we do. The ones referred to in The Preppy Handbook as NOKD (not our kind, dear). The Neanderthals from that other area who just rolled up, looking for food, around the Neanderthals from this cave.


Huddle Up: WEDGE ISSUES [View all] Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 OP
Racial issues are emerging as the 'kicker' for this election. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
Agreed, lets get on the just side of history! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #4
K&R! marym625 Jul 2015 #2
Can do! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #5
Great! I will look for it marym625 Jul 2015 #7
Look in GD: Primary Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #8
Ta-Done! marym625 Jul 2015 #9
wedge issues have done a spectacular job, of splitting the 99 percent against each other HFRN Jul 2015 #3
Indeed! George Carlin spoke about that often. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #6
"The devil works by pointing out our differences" zeemike Jul 2015 #20
Thanks Zeemike. Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #27
I have no interest in "winning DU," nor do I think it's possible. Alternatively, DU was won months merrily Jul 2015 #10
Yep, 90% Pro Bernie Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #11
democrats I've been talking to heaven05 Jul 2015 #19
"Keep fooling yourself." Hi, heaven05. Nice to see you. merrily Jul 2015 #21
people of all stripes heaven05 Jul 2015 #22
But, my post said: I have no interest in "winning DU," nor do I think it's possible. merrily Jul 2015 #28
You're promoting a false narrative and hammering the WEDGE Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #30
I know I just get heaven05 Jul 2015 #32
heaven05. I always welcome your posts and our conversations. merrily Jul 2015 #33
WE can "impact it" heaven05 Jul 2015 #35
Honestly, I don't know how. merrily Jul 2015 #36
we have a right to post anything about the heaven05 Jul 2015 #37
AFAIK, you conduct yourself just fine in my book. merrily Jul 2015 #38
Calling other people's basic rights 'a wedge issue' is inherently problematic. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #12
We have a communication breakdown Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #13
I have a question wrt Identity Politics 2banon Jul 2015 #31
I may not be the best person to speak, but if your kid's life is danger or your own, you might merrily Jul 2015 #34
...... daleanime Jul 2015 #14
Despite any possible future disagreements JackInGreen Jul 2015 #15
Thanks, United We Stand, Divided We Fall Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #17
K&R Moral Compass Jul 2015 #16
Bingo! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #18
Could not agree anymore on this topic! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #23
Thanks for that apropos example Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #25
Fer sher! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #29
The USNews article is a primer on how to use WEDGE issues to divide the GOP, not Dems. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #24
Exactly! Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #26
I prefer the truth bombs reframing the conversation as a method of sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #39
Thanks. Maybe we need to examine how... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #40
Study Karl Rove's Machiavellian tactics. Then match them to the 'talking points' sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #41
Recently, some pundit or other on MSNBC quoted Bubba as having said, merrily Jul 2015 #43
In general people are disgusted with the nastiness except for the sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #44
Yes, but candidates still hope to disqualify each other. And, sometimes they succeed. merrily Jul 2015 #45
Yes, they do, but that's the people's fault. They are less likely to allow sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #46
The fissures do not need identification. They've been known here since forever. merrily Jul 2015 #42
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