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elfin

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32. Just his behavior

Thu May 2, 2019, 10:19 AM

May 2019

His actions through the years are indications to me of a troubled fellow in the shadow of a favored son and an accomplished and admired Dad.

I think he is troubled -- not bad. His behavior is a problem for Joe and the campaign. This deal may be perfectly legit -- but it looks bad. That's all it takes. Just ask Hillary.

Wouldn't matter except Joe is a DEMOCRAT.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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NYT: Biden's son's dealings with Ukraine and Trump/Gulliani plan to capitalize [View all] Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 OP

They've always insisted that working with Ukraine is just peachy. TwilightZone May 2019 #1

Ukraine enid602 May 2019 #28

Totally Don't Care.... LovingA2andMI May 2019 #2

Biden UkraineHillary's emails....nothingburgers leftofcool May 2019 #3

Or not! Cha May 2019 #4

No kidding. It is the one true skill they have - swift boating. nt Lucky Luciano May 2019 #20

Unlike Trump, Biden has shown us tax returns. We know Biden isn't dependent on Russia. SunSeeker May 2019 #5

Excellent POINTS, SunSeeker! Cha May 2019 #22

Yup, NYT is publishing a false story against a Dem in a pathetic attempt to show "balance." SunSeeker May 2019 #65

Weak sauce dalton99a May 2019 #6

I guess creepy Joe Biden failed failed for Trump's increasingly desperate Demsrule86 May 2019 #58

This is unbelievable. PLEASE stop this, it serves absolutely no purpose. George II May 2019 #7

This is a garbage story that's been floated by Faux News, especially Hannity, and even less credible highplainsdem May 2019 #8

Pales in comparison to Trump's spawn... Indygram May 2019 #9

There is nothing in the Democratic camp that can compare to 1% of the malfeasance among Republicans dalton99a May 2019 #13

True. highplainsdem May 2019 #15

Just more Ghouliani bullshit! Crowman2009 May 2019 #10

Wouldn't surprise me if Giuliani has been offering bribes of some type to try to create problems for highplainsdem May 2019 #14

Kind of explains why trump chose Rudy over Christy Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #23

Hmmm...it seems that progressoid May 2019 #11

Tad Devine was negotiating to continue work with Manafort in Ukraine as late as 2014, the year highplainsdem May 2019 #12

Ah, right... 2014 progressoid May 2019 #19

Sounds to me like Clarity2 May 2019 #77

"Worked in Ukraine" --- that's not what the suspicions about R B Garr May 2019 #54

OK, explain it to me. progressoid May 2019 #68

I already did explain that working in Ukraine isn't R B Garr May 2019 #69

OK progressoid May 2019 #70

You originally said "working in Ukraine". R B Garr May 2019 #74

"working in Ukraine" "Devine Manafort connection" progressoid May 2019 #75

Not to me...see the Russians supported Sanders according to Mueller in 16 somewhat so Demsrule86 May 2019 #59

You already support Biden so of course it's not a big deal to you. But to those swing voters progressoid May 2019 #66

Here's the thing. Joe Biden etc ain't gonna spend the next 2 years lying about it. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #16

No. And this unfair attack on Biden might very well lead President Obama and other world leaders highplainsdem May 2019 #17

Judd Legum and Jon Favreau on this stupid story: highplainsdem May 2019 #18

Trump's personal lawyer is conspiring with a foreign govt for advantage over a rival candidate muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #21

Josh Marshall nailed it. highplainsdem May 2019 #25

Trump just retweeted a Ken Vogel tweet about the story, this one: highplainsdem May 2019 #24

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #26

You appear to be Cha May 2019 #30

Just his behavior elfin May 2019 #32

No it is not. Demsrule86 May 2019 #57

It is not a big deal...total bullshit Demsrule86 May 2019 #34

Easy peasey... Zoonart May 2019 #27

Another example of the swamp dweller pointing out an opponent's scuffed shoe bigbrother05 May 2019 #29

This should blow up in Giuliani's face. It is Giuliani delisen May 2019 #31

It's been out there for a long time, on video even, no one cared Baclava May 2019 #33

That's the kind of President I want. Go joe. Demsrule86 May 2019 #35

No one cared because everyone knew Shokin was corrupt and Biden and Obama did the right thing. highplainsdem May 2019 #36

well yeah, but to pretend it didn't happen is foolish, sweeping it under the rug won't help Baclava May 2019 #37

Nothing happened. So unless some are doing this to hurt Biden for the Demsrule86 May 2019 #39

I have no problem with anyone talking about what actually happened. I object to the RW lie highplainsdem May 2019 #40

Look into what?? What supposedly happened? themaguffin May 2019 #38

Hoarse Whisperer tweet: Two weeks ago, Ken Vogel of the NYT used emails hacked by Russia in a sleazy highplainsdem May 2019 #41

So this is the incredibly scandalous matter that is enveloping Joe Biden? Let's see: Tommy_Carcetti May 2019 #42

Whitewater was totally a small domestic investment. delisen May 2019 #44

People are not seeing the damage this will do, along with other things in Biden's record. marylandblue May 2019 #43

And they won't do stuff to Mayor Pete? This is stupid and easily refutable. Demsrule86 May 2019 #46

If course they will go after Pete, but I back him because so far he has good answers marylandblue May 2019 #48

I don't think Mayor Pete wins a general. Demsrule86 May 2019 #50

Of course you don't, you've already decided that Biden is the only possibility marylandblue May 2019 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author marylandblue May 2019 #71

Seems more like wishful thinking to me. BannonsLiver May 2019 #60

Why would I wish something like that? marylandblue May 2019 #73

A contractor working on my house brought this up the other day StarfishSaver May 2019 #45

He's apparently getting his "news" from Fox, Breitbart, WND, etc. highplainsdem May 2019 #47

Scathing thread about what's wrong with NYT story by expert on oligarchs/kleptocrats: highplainsdem May 2019 #49

ThinkProgress's Ian Millhiser is also recommending this thread: highplainsdem May 2019 #64

This is a disaster for Biden BeyondGeography May 2019 #51

I see a lot of smears that won't work...undecided ha. Demsrule86 May 2019 #53

Yes, that and a lot of wishful thinking masquerading as concern. BannonsLiver May 2019 #61

Yep. This is so obvious. I feel their desperation as Bernie facades in the primary. Demsrule86 May 2019 #62

I say ... Mme. Defarge May 2019 #52

I'm with you BRING IT! DVRacer May 2019 #56

This story is all rightie sources other than the Times bullshit. Joe will be just fine. Demsrule86 May 2019 #55

With all maggots MFM008 May 2019 #63

This is nothing more than . . . peggysue2 May 2019 #67

What a trump. They botched up their own oppo. C_U_L8R May 2019 #76