Democratic Primaries

jimlup

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157. Whatever

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:37 PM

May 2019

my position is that the fixation on the mainstream solution is dangerous and is ultimately what lead to Trump's election in 2016.

I support Bernie Sanders because he is the candidate who most represents my views. I will accept and vote for Biden and not as a "lessor evil" I proudly supported Hillary in 2016 after Bernie endorsed her. I think that, though she was mainstream, she was still far and above many.

I hope we can proceed as I have often commented and posted approvals of your threads just don't expect me to tow the mainstream "Biden is necessary to defeat Trump." Especially right now.

And while it can never be tested and many questions remain but from where I sit Bernie would have been a better candidate against Trump in 2016. The electorate is looking for something beyond the normal standard Wall Street backed solution. So seriously that they went for Trump even though that was the opposite what they actually thought that they were getting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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For Those Who Are Pissed That Biden Is Doing Well: [View all] MineralMan May 2019 OP

I have no qualms. I do not mind. 😊 n/t sprinkleeninow May 2019 #1

.. Cha May 2019 #92

Heh-heh.... sprinkleeninow May 2019 #97

I am happy he is doing well. I support Warren but I still love Biden katmondoo May 2019 #2

Okay DownriverDem May 2019 #35

Don't know why anyone would be pissed. Kaleva May 2019 #3

There are a few who are pissed about Joe Biden. MineralMan May 2019 #5

Probably not surprising given the results of the poll I posted. Kaleva May 2019 #6

In other words, cherry pick quotes, word parse, and present stuff out of context emulatorloo May 2019 #37

No, there really is some constructive criticism that can be advanced on any of the candidates. PatrickforO May 2019 #54

Precisely! True Dough May 2019 #104

All the primary candidates believe in the same policies. Anyone of them would put this country emulatorloo May 2019 #130

Thank you! True Blue American May 2019 #135

They don't know DownriverDem May 2019 #40

Did they say they wouldn't vote for him??? nt USALiberal May 2019 #56

I didn't claim that. MineralMan May 2019 #59

I'm certainly not pissed either! I'm for anyone who can mop the floor with Trump! Rhiannon12866 May 2019 #121

i will vote for the dem nom....who(m)ever that will be.. samnsara May 2019 #4

Exactly. It hasn't been decided yet! So stay positive about all EndGOPPropaganda May 2019 #26

Yes but DownriverDem May 2019 #50

They can all win. EndGOPPropaganda May 2019 #140

I support Elizabeth Warren as my #1 Ohiogal May 2019 #7

Could EASILY see switching to Elizabeth should Bernie falter... she's frickin' awesome!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #47

You should probably start making those plans. BannonsLiver May 2019 #69

Nope, there's plenty of time... willing to let the primary play itself out. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #74

I won't be deciding any time soon. I have a good story about early bandwagon jumping. brewens May 2019 #8

He's a Republican. That means he's a traitor today. EndGOPPropaganda May 2019 #27

I don't consider my support DownriverDem May 2019 #68

I'm only pissed at the constant drumbeat from his supporters, starting as soon as he announced, pnwmom May 2019 #9

I haven't tried to shove Joe Biden down anyone's throat. MineralMan May 2019 #14

I didn't say you did. I was responding to your claim that someDemocrats are pissed pnwmom May 2019 #42

Thank you! Boomer May 2019 #76

Exactly right... Joe's loss of those two previous Presidential primaries tells me he most certainly InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #85

Except that Biden never lost a single primary, right? George II May 2019 #89

Except that I was responding to pnwmom's CORRECT statement about Biden's entry in two previous InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #93

Which states did he lose - New Hampshire? New York? California? Texas? None! George II May 2019 #94

Joe did so poorly in the two previous Presidential primaries that pnwmom correctly referenced... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #95

Once again, he didn't lose a single primary. Not one. And yes, I already knew that, as did you. George II May 2019 #96

Thought maybe we could have a serious conversation... guess not. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #98

I did too, but as you like to say, "you can admit you're wrong, nothing bad about that." ..... George II May 2019 #100

LOL! I answered your question.Joe lost the '88 Democratic primary to Dukakis & the 1 in '08 to Obama InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #109

No he didn't, neither in 1988 nor in 2008. I know you'd LIKE him to have lost a primary.... George II May 2019 #110

Yeah, didn't think so. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #111

I've seen the same kind of comments Nuggets May 2019 #101

I totally agree with you Andy823 May 2019 #87

Harris and Inslee are among the candidates I like a lot. pnwmom May 2019 #123

You are right. We all need to just sit back and let Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #21

I agree leftofcool May 2019 #62

Yes, it was like finaly our Savior is here and we can all relax now and just accept it. vsrazdem May 2019 #88

Oh Bullfeathers. I saw Biden supporters Cha May 2019 #114

Most of the people I've seen pushing the "inevitable" meme... TwilightZone May 2019 #90

Exactly, TwilightZone.. here's a perfect Cha May 2019 #117

Oh right.. it's us Biden Supporters you're Cha May 2019 #99

Bazinga! George II May 2019 #112

.. Cha May 2019 #113

You're pissed that he is doing well LibFarmer May 2019 #118

Nope. I don't think the polls this early on, before debates or primaries, pnwmom May 2019 #131

No one True Blue American May 2019 #129

I'm not saying Biden is doing this. I'm saying some of his supporters pnwmom May 2019 #132

Then you could say True Blue American May 2019 #133

I felt the same way when Bernie supporters were pushing the idea that he was inevitable. pnwmom May 2019 #136

I agree True Blue American May 2019 #137

Whomever gets the nomination, I will gladly vote for and support. ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #10

I don't think anyone is "pissed" that he's doing well Indygram May 2019 #11

+1. I think most candidates running are perfectly capable of handling Donald Trump dalton99a May 2019 #13

+1. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #46

No latching on DownriverDem May 2019 #71

I don't want "normalcy," I want something exceptional Indygram May 2019 #105

Could not agree with you more!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #115

Well, that's one thing Indygram May 2019 #128

I do not think True Blue American May 2019 #134

For any Democrat worth his/her salt or any . . . peggysue2 May 2019 #12

I keep thinking back to the last presidential election, though. MineralMan May 2019 #17

That smell is going to linger for a long time, MM peggysue2 May 2019 #23

I pledge to support the Democratic 2020 nominee. Turin_C3PO May 2019 #15

For the record tiredtoo May 2019 #16

Here's a deal I would prefer: Raven123 May 2019 #18

Could a lot of this Biden bashing be coming from Russian trolls? INdemo May 2019 #19

This Is Where I Am At Too DallasNE May 2019 #57

I'd be proud to vote for and support Joe. Mc Mike May 2019 #20

IMO Biden is doing well right now simply because of name recognition. groundloop May 2019 #22

Who's pissed? I'm disappointed, but not pissed. My only problem with Biden is... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #24

Concur. madamesilverspurs May 2019 #25

I haven't seen that Are people really pissed that he's doing well? That's new pdsimdars May 2019 #28

No one I've seen. I'm glad Joe's doin well tho I prefer Bernie...wanted Joe and others in the race InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #38

May the best candidate win!! Then, like I always say, vote blue, no matter who!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #29

I'm pleased that he's doing well. I'd be happy if (almost) any of the others were doing well, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #30

I concur with what you said here. 👍 sprinkleeninow May 2019 #34

I am currently supporting Pete Buttigieg as my top choice, but... Different Drummer May 2019 #31

Glad to see Mayor Pete's doing well. And yes, vote for the eventual nominee, theres no other choice! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #41

Agreed. It's the only way we can depose Trump. n/t Different Drummer May 2019 #80

according to the polling per MSNBC, it isn't just that Biden is ahead.. Grasswire2 May 2019 #32

That's a good sign, I think. MineralMan May 2019 #33

Job 1... abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #45

... LibFarmer May 2019 #119

I think Bernie should drop out NYMinute May 2019 #120

I'll vote for the Dem nominee - whoever it is. Including Bulldog Joe. CousinIT May 2019 #36

I am happy with Joe Biden... Peacetrain May 2019 #39

Haha, I'll bet you are!! Congrats on Joe's fine showing in the polls so far... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #43

So, are you saying it's 🍊 or Biden? Primaries canceled then? robbedvoter May 2019 #44

Pissed is the wrong word LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #48

Let this just play out... BlueJac May 2019 #49

That's sound advice... we've got plenty of time. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #78

Looks like a straw man to me. thesquanderer May 2019 #51

I didn't claim that. MineralMan May 2019 #61

No need to ask everyone to promise to vote for Joe if he's the nominee... thesquanderer May 2019 #65

I'm with you. PatrickforO May 2019 #52

Fake outrage! What poster said they would not vote for the nominee???? nt USALiberal May 2019 #53

I can see Trump getting reelected and 2016 as the Left falls into factions. elocs May 2019 #55

For those who are pissed that Bernie is doing well: progressoid May 2019 #58

But they aren't. MineralMan May 2019 #60

You're basing this on some solid facts? progressoid May 2019 #63

Current polls. MineralMan May 2019 #64

Current polls are saying that people are pissed that Biden is doing well? progressoid May 2019 #66

It can be tough to both maintain... LanternWaste May 2019 #163

dumb questions, Mineral Man Martin Eden May 2019 #67

It holds enough interest for you to turn up and comment on it. BannonsLiver May 2019 #72

The "It" that prompted my comment was not not the horse race Martin Eden May 2019 #79

Someone got triggered by this post johannsyah May 2019 #70

Russia Again wsbradshaw May 2019 #73

Of course! kooth May 2019 #75

You should not be posting here if you won't support ANY DEMOCRAT who emerges from the pack. sellitman May 2019 #77

I finally am back on my computer kozar May 2019 #81

My condolences - welcome back! Skya Rhen May 2019 #84

Pissed, no. Disregard angry DU'ers. lambchopp59 May 2019 #82

I still don't get his appeal. But if that's who I have to vote for... TCJ70 May 2019 #83

I had to ignore someone who would jump on any thread crazytown May 2019 #86

It's still very early. TwilightZone May 2019 #91

I admit ... mntleo2 May 2019 #102

I'm a Declared Biden Supporter and I haven't Sensed A Large Folks Being Pissed Indykatie May 2019 #103

very condescending post IMO pretty hostile, too. mucifer May 2019 #106

I am not pissed regardless of who is doing well at140 May 2019 #107

That's how I feel... REALLY rooting for Elizabeth to rise in the polls. She's SO damn competent... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #116

Like you, I still feel Bernie is the most inspiring, but I am a fan of Elizabeth mvd May 2019 #124

Yes, and I think Bernie & Elizabeth working in "progressive tandem" could bring a lot of voters InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #125

Any democrat seta1950 May 2019 #108

He's not my first choice but for sure voting for him in the GE mvd May 2019 #122

I will vote for the Democratic nominee but Biden is not my first choice saljr1 May 2019 #126

Your choices are all good FakeNoose May 2019 #145

Ditto ananda May 2019 #127

Stirring the pot. n/t Laelth May 2019 #138

I am glad he is doing well. Tipperary May 2019 #139

I have no objections with Biden except that's all he is offering. Stellar May 2019 #141

Perhaps you should listen to him a little more closely. MineralMan May 2019 #143

"The only way on god(s)' green earth that I'll vote for X is . . ." MrModerate May 2019 #142

Not liking that Biden is in the lead and not voting for the Democratic in the GE are different aikoaiko May 2019 #144

If somebody isn't going to vote for the Dem nominee FakeNoose May 2019 #146

We have to defeat trump in 2020 Gothmog May 2019 #147

Indeed we do, and we are all responsible for helping make that happen. MineralMan May 2019 #148

ANY FUNCTIONING ADULT 2020 Pluvious May 2019 #149

no brainer there jimlup May 2019 #150

I don't vote for horses in elections. MineralMan May 2019 #151

Don't make assumptions jimlup May 2019 #152

I assume nothing about any DUer. Generally, they MineralMan May 2019 #153

You should already know me in that way jimlup May 2019 #155

Not really. I don't recognize your screen name, to tell the truth. MineralMan May 2019 #156

Whatever jimlup May 2019 #157

Count me in Zambero May 2019 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid May 2019 #158

"where again he didn't have a chance" TwilightZone May 2019 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid May 2019 #160

I've already made that promise, but Joe is NOT my choice. garybeck May 2019 #161

Your post is an insult to anyone who isn't a diehard Biden fan mtnsnake May 2019 #162