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Showing Original Post only (View all)Before attacking Kamala Harris for "mischaracterizing" Biden's views, please look at what she said [View all]
Following is the entire exchange on the topic of race between Sen. Harris and VP Biden. There is nothing in it in which Harris in any way mischaracterized Biden's comments about working with segregationist senators or his record on busing:
Senator Kamala Harris of California sharply criticized former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. at the Democratic presidential primary debate on Thursday, talking about her personal history with busing and calling his recent recollections of working with segregationist senators hurtful.
Below is a transcript of the exchange.
[Here are the highlights of the debate.]
HARRIS: And Im going to now direct this at Vice President Biden. I do not believe you are a racist. And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground, but I also believe and it is personal, and it was actually very hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputation and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And you know, there was a little girl in California who was a part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me. So I will tell you that, on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among Democrats. We have to take it seriously. We have to act swiftly. As attorney general of California, I was very proud to put in place a requirement that all my special agents wear body cameras and keep those cameras on.
BIDEN: A mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not praise racists, that is not true. Number one. Number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether I did or not, Im happy to do that. I was a public defender. I didnt become a prosecutor. I came out and left a good law firm to become a public defender when, in fact, when, in fact, when, in fact, my city was in flames because of the assassination of Dr. King. Number one, number two. Excuse me as the vice president of the United States, I worked with a man who, in fact, we worked very hard to see it to, we dealt with these issues. And in a major, major way. The fact is that in terms of busing, the busing, I never you would have been able to go to school the same exact way because it was a local decision made by your city council. Thats fine. Thats one of the things I argued for, that we should not be we should be breaking down these lines. So the bottom line here is, look, everything I have done in my career, I ran because of civil rights. I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights. And those civil rights, by the way, include not just African Americans but the L.G.B.T.Q. communities.
HARRIS: But Vice President Biden, do you agree today, do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America then? Do you agree?
BIDEN: I did not oppose busing in America. What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education. Thats what I opposed.
HARRIS: Its a failure of states to integrate public schools in America. I was a part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California, public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education.
BIDEN: Because your city council made that decision. It was a local decision.
HARRIS: Thats where the federal government must step in, thats why we have the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act. Thats why we need to pass the Equality Act, its why we need to pass the E.R.A. Because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.
Below is a transcript of the exchange.
[Here are the highlights of the debate.]
HARRIS: And Im going to now direct this at Vice President Biden. I do not believe you are a racist. And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground, but I also believe and it is personal, and it was actually very hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputation and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And you know, there was a little girl in California who was a part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me. So I will tell you that, on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among Democrats. We have to take it seriously. We have to act swiftly. As attorney general of California, I was very proud to put in place a requirement that all my special agents wear body cameras and keep those cameras on.
BIDEN: A mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not praise racists, that is not true. Number one. Number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether I did or not, Im happy to do that. I was a public defender. I didnt become a prosecutor. I came out and left a good law firm to become a public defender when, in fact, when, in fact, when, in fact, my city was in flames because of the assassination of Dr. King. Number one, number two. Excuse me as the vice president of the United States, I worked with a man who, in fact, we worked very hard to see it to, we dealt with these issues. And in a major, major way. The fact is that in terms of busing, the busing, I never you would have been able to go to school the same exact way because it was a local decision made by your city council. Thats fine. Thats one of the things I argued for, that we should not be we should be breaking down these lines. So the bottom line here is, look, everything I have done in my career, I ran because of civil rights. I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights. And those civil rights, by the way, include not just African Americans but the L.G.B.T.Q. communities.
HARRIS: But Vice President Biden, do you agree today, do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America then? Do you agree?
BIDEN: I did not oppose busing in America. What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education. Thats what I opposed.
HARRIS: Its a failure of states to integrate public schools in America. I was a part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California, public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education.
BIDEN: Because your city council made that decision. It was a local decision.
HARRIS: Thats where the federal government must step in, thats why we have the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act. Thats why we need to pass the Equality Act, its why we need to pass the E.R.A. Because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Before attacking Kamala Harris for "mischaracterizing" Biden's views, please look at what she said [View all]
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
OP
Or, as someone pointed out, if just about any of the other candidates had challenged him this way,
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#54
"It was a local decision" was not and is not a good position for Biden. I love him like a play cousi
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#11
Agree. That was a lame excuse. Harris voice indicates it was upsetting to her, and
Hoyt
Jun 2019
#27
+1, and all Biden has to say was that was then and I've changed and move on. He was Obama's VP
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#28
"It's a local issue" is the excuse the Supreme Court used today to allow gerrymandering to stand
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#35
Maybe she doesn't know his record she said this on Face the Nation this week:
UniteFightBack
Jun 2019
#10
He was a US Senator who pushed federal anti-busing and anti-desegregation legislation
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#17
He could have explained how he changed and why he changed instead of defending
Blue_true
Jun 2019
#66
She just put a big hole in MSM attempts to demonize Biden telling Tweety "that NO HE IS NOT DONE!"
hlthe2b
Jun 2019
#12
I think both did well in this exhange. Biden was suncere in his answer.
Drunken Irishman
Jun 2019
#13
Question should be: Before attacking Biden for his misconstrued comments, look at what HE said
onetexan
Jun 2019
#14
She HAS to know what he REALLY said, therefore she is doing this on purpose. nt
UniteFightBack
Jun 2019
#21
Harris was wrong on her facts. So altho the emotional appeal was there, she was wrong.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2019
#18
I'm not reading that long post, but yes, he helped do away w/mandate about HOW integration...
Honeycombe8
Jun 2019
#33
If you're not "reading that long post" you really shouldn't respond to it all.
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#37
His answer was great and accurate. I agree with it, too. As did the country at the time.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2019
#44
"local issue", "states rights" etc was a cop out. The issue is his vote was wrong then and there
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#32
I disagree. The law was integration. Busing was just one of several ways to effect integration.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2019
#36
"It was up to the states and communities " what about the states and communities that wouldn't
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#38
She wasn't mistaken. She never claimed that federal law required busing in her community
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#40
A black woman had the temerity to challenge a white man about race on national television
EffieBlack
Jun 2019
#48