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108. In the 2008 campaign, Obama reportedly cut Biden's press access

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:02 AM

Aug 2019

because he got tired of the screw-ups:

"Biden had been hanging around with reporters running his mouth about how he was more qualified to be president than Barack Obama," Halperin said.

Obama apparently made his feelings known.

"'How many times is Biden going to say something stupid?" Obama reportedly said after Biden said that it would not be "six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."

Staffers said Obama's response was as angry as they had ever seen him, according to the book.

"There was always a big concern that Biden would talk too much, say the wrong things," Heilemann said today. "And as soon as that happened, that was the moment they cut back Biden's access to the press."

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/game-change-authors-halperin-heilemann-shocked/story?id=9530045

That’s from Game Change. Biden's office criticized the book but didn’t challenge anything specifically.

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Biden Says 'Poor Kids' Are Just as Smart as 'White Kids' in Iowa [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 OP

"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids... they can do anything anybody else can do given a shot." Princetonian Aug 2019 #1

He got there...eventually. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #4

What did you think of his speech yesterday? Princetonian Aug 2019 #6

Didn't watch it, read the transcript, wasn't blown away. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #18

Given this OP, I am not surprised. Which candidate does blow you away or interests you? Princetonian Aug 2019 #28

None of them blows me away. Each of them has deficiencies that really irk me. With this many WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #37

Well, thank you for doing that for us, Whisky Grinder. Princetonian Aug 2019 #43

Someone's got to do it. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #44

Just a question.. but you really think fence sitting helps? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #51

I don't see it as fence-sitting. If it is, I don't see how it hurts. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #55

I'm good with that.. everyone has their thoughts about it. When the general comes I too will Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #64

everyone doesn't have a favorite. I don't. :))) pangaia Aug 2019 #130

Yup... tonedevil Aug 2019 #103

I'm sorry our candidates' deficiencies irk you. Maybe when you find the perfect, superhuman highplainsdem Aug 2019 #118

Oh, I don't look for a perfect candidate -- I know they don't exist. What I do want is for the WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #120

i agree with you on this... i have no favorite at the moment and don;t plan to have one for quite pangaia Aug 2019 #128

Should have watched! Most here with any candidate choice thought it was outstanding Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #35

So I hear. Not interested, but thanks for the recommendation. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #39

But not in time to stop you from trashing him with a misleading John Fante Aug 2019 #56

But...he did say that. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #57

Please share the video link with us. I do not trust a random pool reporter playing up a storyline. Princetonian Aug 2019 #73

I'm trying to figure what's the problem with this. There is none. brush Aug 2019 #70

Yup, not one of our candidates is without their foibles. So, let's emphasize the + let the rest go Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #81

Politico had been trying to push this click bait nonsense without success. wiley Aug 2019 #160

Correct me if I am wrong, but that sounds to me just as bad as the first part. pangaia Aug 2019 #127

Amimnoch had a great take. Let me share it with you because it shocked me. Princetonian Aug 2019 #131

Of course. We all know this. pangaia Aug 2019 #133

He can't help it. He's unreconstructed. It's who he is. enough Aug 2019 #2

Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #5

Joe constructed a damned fine speech yesterday. Or don't you think so? Princetonian Aug 2019 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11

lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #14

As usual skya rhen you nailed. Myself, I prefer to walk around the man hole rather than to fall in Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54

yes, he is very good, scripted Skittles Aug 2019 #46

Joe's been good unscripted too. There have been clips posted all day. I like the one when he... Princetonian Aug 2019 #76

if you say so Skittles Aug 2019 #78

I saw all the clips of Beto, most of whom made me see his immense depth of compassion. Princetonian Aug 2019 #86

Indeed, he faced down a creep from Breitbart, set him straight and the guy just shut up Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #82

Here's the video of that smackdown! Princetonian Aug 2019 #115

Biden wrote the speech that's Cha Aug 2019 #99

I don't think it has to do with his age. murielm99 Aug 2019 #8

I feel bad for Joe... he should just stick to prepared remarks and he'll be fine. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #153

huh? bigtree Aug 2019 #3

Surely you can muster up more hatred than that. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #143

I would have loved to have seen a video of the room on that one. Autumn Aug 2019 #9

I would have loved to see a video of Biden saying that and how long the "quickly added" pause was. George II Aug 2019 #19

From the video he got a few claps, but most were just silent. Joe941 Aug 2019 #169

Wow melman Aug 2019 #10

Wow George II Aug 2019 #13

Wow indeed melman Aug 2019 #24

Wow indeed George II Aug 2019 #26

Wow is right. Did you hear the applause in the room? Like 25 people at least. Autumn Aug 2019 #16

Has Steyer qualified for the September debate yet? Princetonian Aug 2019 #17

Bazinga! George II Aug 2019 #22

There's time. He's only asking for a dollar. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #27

Ummm sheshe2 Aug 2019 #75

Not everyone can be as popular as Steyer. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #23

As the the top all-time Democratic donor, Steyer's very popular with Democrats . Autumn Aug 2019 #63

Joe had better watch out. Steyer is gaining on him in the polls because he is so popular. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #71

No melman Aug 2019 #29

The applause was underwhelming to say the least. Autumn Aug 2019 #33

I've heard it now melman Aug 2019 #49

Applause in the room? Did I miss it? There doesn't seem to be an audio of him at the link. George II Aug 2019 #30

Click on OP thread information George. Video was included. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #32

I did Autumn, all I got was a 1:03 audio of a reading of the text in the "article". Maybe... George II Aug 2019 #38

Maybe you didn't look at the other links in the OP George. All stories start somewhere. Autumn Aug 2019 #41

Indeed, Autumn, all stories start somewhere. George II Aug 2019 #45

Ask your friend George. He assures me it was all over the news and the pundits PRAISED it Autumn Aug 2019 #59

What friend are you talking about? If it was "all over the news" why not tell us where? George II Aug 2019 #61

Come on George. Surely you know how to click on the link I posted in my response to you? Autumn Aug 2019 #66

That's not a friend of mine.... George II Aug 2019 #68

Is this like the Cap link issue you had earlier with your server? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #97

Going round and round Lordquinton Aug 2019 #102

Mahalo Lordquinton! Autumn Aug 2019 #113

Yep, she and I go back and forth three or four times, then as an "explanation"... George II Aug 2019 #157

luv you george... LakeArenal Aug 2019 #151

Regardless of the number of attendees, he was praised by all the pundits.. they felt it was a very Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #42

C'mon man, you're ruining the "narrative"!!!! George II Aug 2019 #47

Be sure and post the videos of all the praise by the pundits and clips of his powerful statement Autumn Aug 2019 #50

How many would you like Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #77

So you weren't talking about the actual event being discussed. Autumn Aug 2019 #80

I wish Joe was a billionaire donor so you would like him too. Princetonian Aug 2019 #83

Biden's likable enough. I just like several others more, a lot more. Autumn Aug 2019 #85

Yes I am! If you opened the links you would see that I was so don't even go there! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #90

... sheshe2 Aug 2019 #98

You replied to my post discussing the event in the OP Autumn Aug 2019 #119

Well, once again you did bother to open the links Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #156

I'm sorry. I didn't bother to look at the links. I didn't need to, you described them Autumn Aug 2019 #166

You win?? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #168

So. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #67

So melman Aug 2019 #84

Cute, Melman. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #87

cute, she? melman Aug 2019 #88

Interesting what disturbs you and what does not. nt sheshe2 Aug 2019 #89

Really? melman Aug 2019 #91

No mel. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #92

No melman Aug 2019 #93

Not playing. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #94

Okay melman Aug 2019 #95

Take it any way you wish. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #96

LOL... good one!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #154

Pile on! George II Aug 2019 #12

lol.. The OP thinks he has a really Cha Aug 2019 #100

And poor white kids? Wealthy minority kids? and 76 year old kids? IronLionZion Aug 2019 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #20

He's going to need minorities to win the general election IronLionZion Aug 2019 #25

What makes you think he's taking minorities for granted? Are you saying... George II Aug 2019 #31

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #36

No he isn't, the let's pile on because our candidate isn't doing well is showing Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #48

They are part and parcel of the good man Joe is. Iowans sure don't think worse of him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #21

Uh oh. History repeats Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #34

Hey now... Princetonian Aug 2019 #40

It sure looks like it's going to repeat itself for Bernie again. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #107

Doh ! CentralMass Aug 2019 #52

Yikes! Lordquinton Aug 2019 #53

Disappointed. Very disappointed. Auggie Aug 2019 #58

Cringe worthy, but no big deal - people know it's Joe Biden dalton99a Aug 2019 #60

Your comment says so much. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #62

It's a Jerry Ford moment in the scheme of things dalton99a Aug 2019 #65

Classic joe. Nothing new here - we know his heart. Joe941 Aug 2019 #117

Jerry was a political disaster. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #148

Shit happens when you talk all the time. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2019 #69

Bingo! Princetonian Aug 2019 #72

thank u next EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #74

This could bring his numbers down big! BootinUp Aug 2019 #101

.. and the well-oiled gears of the Gaffe Industrial Complex click and whir ucrdem Aug 2019 #104

Occasional malapropisms and "Bidenisms" have always been Biden hlthe2b Aug 2019 #105

A thread with over 100 posts and not one of them includes the video and audio? True Dough Aug 2019 #106

In the 2008 campaign, Obama reportedly cut Biden's press access BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #108

Maybe Obama is holding back his support for Biden because of what he might say next. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #109

He wouldn't endorse anyone until there's a winner BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #110

What did Barack do from 2009-2012 besides calling Joe his brother & "the best decision I have made"? Princetonian Aug 2019 #121

Both things can easily be true BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #123

lol... is that you, David Axelrod? Princetonian Aug 2019 #124

Dangerous?? Really?? I call dangerous dotard having his fingers on the nuke buttons Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #162

I'll have to download that book. Thanks for the link. Autumn Aug 2019 #136

Written by Mark Halperin who called Barack a "dick" and was accused by 5 women of sexual harassment Princetonian Aug 2019 #147

He eventually corrected himself wellst0nev0ter Aug 2019 #111

Thanks. He did correct it really quickly, but still unfortunate. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #112

lol... Joe is alot faster than I am when I call my husband by our dog's name or tell my son to... Princetonian Aug 2019 #116

Good point. The gopeeee are going to try and take him down regardless of what he says or does Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #163

Exactly. We just have to watch Joe's back without mercy and let him do the rest. Princetonian Aug 2019 #164

I've seen it on both CNN and MSNBC. cwydro Aug 2019 #125

what's wrong... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #114

Tells me he has an accurate sense of racial wealth inequality. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #122

Wow. That is some stark sh*t! Princetonian Aug 2019 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Aug 2019 #132

It's classist loyalsister Aug 2019 #134

If Bernie said that's how his supporters would spin it BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #140

I supported Bernie last time around. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #150

and he immediately corrected himself. Are WE gonna keep this going? elleng Aug 2019 #129

Well, it's on the front page of MSNBC right now... AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #141

Not now it isn't. I'll bet they got near zero hits and lots of pissed off voters calling. Princetonian Aug 2019 #146

Still there. Look harder. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #149

You said MSNBC not MSN. I see it. Oh well, I think lots of voters know what he's talking about. Princetonian Aug 2019 #155

Sorry, I still tend to think of them as the same thing. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #158

lol... yeah. I forgot MSN still existed. Good to know! Princetonian Aug 2019 #159

Default site on all Windows machines. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #161

Bill Gates never makes that mistake. George II Aug 2019 #167

Thank you emulatorloo Aug 2019 #144

Are you saying this was a Russian plan? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #145

the poutrage gets more and more ridiculous ... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #135

This shows... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #137

So the real story here is that the Trump campaign disingenuously omitted his correction. ooky Aug 2019 #138

He was recognizing white privilege treestar Aug 2019 #142

Please watch this video Gothmog Aug 2019 #152

Well, it's not a holy Toledo moment now, is it? n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #165