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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

WhiskeyGrinder

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120. Oh, I don't look for a perfect candidate -- I know they don't exist. What I do want is for the
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:26 AM
Aug 2019

candidates we do have to do better, and to keep trying to do better. The campaign trail is the perfect place for that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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"Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids... they can do anything anybody else can do given a shot." Princetonian Aug 2019 #1
He got there...eventually. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #4
What did you think of his speech yesterday? Princetonian Aug 2019 #6
Didn't watch it, read the transcript, wasn't blown away. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #18
Given this OP, I am not surprised. Which candidate does blow you away or interests you? Princetonian Aug 2019 #28
None of them blows me away. Each of them has deficiencies that really irk me. With this many WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #37
Well, thank you for doing that for us, Whisky Grinder. Princetonian Aug 2019 #43
Someone's got to do it. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #44
Just a question.. but you really think fence sitting helps? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #51
I don't see it as fence-sitting. If it is, I don't see how it hurts. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #55
I'm good with that.. everyone has their thoughts about it. When the general comes I too will Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #64
everyone doesn't have a favorite. I don't. :))) pangaia Aug 2019 #130
Yup... tonedevil Aug 2019 #103
I'm sorry our candidates' deficiencies irk you. Maybe when you find the perfect, superhuman highplainsdem Aug 2019 #118
Oh, I don't look for a perfect candidate -- I know they don't exist. What I do want is for the WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #120
i agree with you on this... i have no favorite at the moment and don;t plan to have one for quite pangaia Aug 2019 #128
Should have watched! Most here with any candidate choice thought it was outstanding Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #35
So I hear. Not interested, but thanks for the recommendation. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #39
But not in time to stop you from trashing him with a misleading John Fante Aug 2019 #56
But...he did say that. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #57
Please share the video link with us. I do not trust a random pool reporter playing up a storyline. Princetonian Aug 2019 #73
I'm trying to figure what's the problem with this. There is none. brush Aug 2019 #70
Yup, not one of our candidates is without their foibles. So, let's emphasize the + let the rest go Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #81
Politico had been trying to push this click bait nonsense without success. wiley Aug 2019 #160
Correct me if I am wrong, but that sounds to me just as bad as the first part. pangaia Aug 2019 #127
Amimnoch had a great take. Let me share it with you because it shocked me. Princetonian Aug 2019 #131
Of course. We all know this. pangaia Aug 2019 #133
He can't help it. He's unreconstructed. It's who he is. enough Aug 2019 #2
Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #5
Joe constructed a damned fine speech yesterday. Or don't you think so? Princetonian Aug 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11
lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #14
As usual skya rhen you nailed. Myself, I prefer to walk around the man hole rather than to fall in Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54
yes, he is very good, scripted Skittles Aug 2019 #46
Joe's been good unscripted too. There have been clips posted all day. I like the one when he... Princetonian Aug 2019 #76
if you say so Skittles Aug 2019 #78
I saw all the clips of Beto, most of whom made me see his immense depth of compassion. Princetonian Aug 2019 #86
Indeed, he faced down a creep from Breitbart, set him straight and the guy just shut up Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #82
Here's the video of that smackdown! Princetonian Aug 2019 #115
Biden wrote the speech that's Cha Aug 2019 #99
I don't think it has to do with his age. murielm99 Aug 2019 #8
I feel bad for Joe... he should just stick to prepared remarks and he'll be fine. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #153
huh? bigtree Aug 2019 #3
Surely you can muster up more hatred than that. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #143
I would have loved to have seen a video of the room on that one. Autumn Aug 2019 #9
I would have loved to see a video of Biden saying that and how long the "quickly added" pause was. George II Aug 2019 #19
From the video he got a few claps, but most were just silent. Joe941 Aug 2019 #169
Wow melman Aug 2019 #10
Wow George II Aug 2019 #13
Wow indeed melman Aug 2019 #24
Wow indeed George II Aug 2019 #26
Wow is right. Did you hear the applause in the room? Like 25 people at least. Autumn Aug 2019 #16
Has Steyer qualified for the September debate yet? Princetonian Aug 2019 #17
Bazinga! George II Aug 2019 #22
There's time. He's only asking for a dollar. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #27
Ummm sheshe2 Aug 2019 #75
Not everyone can be as popular as Steyer. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #23
As the the top all-time Democratic donor, Steyer's very popular with Democrats . Autumn Aug 2019 #63
Joe had better watch out. Steyer is gaining on him in the polls because he is so popular. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #71
No melman Aug 2019 #29
The applause was underwhelming to say the least. Autumn Aug 2019 #33
I've heard it now melman Aug 2019 #49
Applause in the room? Did I miss it? There doesn't seem to be an audio of him at the link. George II Aug 2019 #30
Click on OP thread information George. Video was included. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #32
I did Autumn, all I got was a 1:03 audio of a reading of the text in the "article". Maybe... George II Aug 2019 #38
Maybe you didn't look at the other links in the OP George. All stories start somewhere. Autumn Aug 2019 #41
Indeed, Autumn, all stories start somewhere. George II Aug 2019 #45
Ask your friend George. He assures me it was all over the news and the pundits PRAISED it Autumn Aug 2019 #59
What friend are you talking about? If it was "all over the news" why not tell us where? George II Aug 2019 #61
Come on George. Surely you know how to click on the link I posted in my response to you? Autumn Aug 2019 #66
That's not a friend of mine.... George II Aug 2019 #68
Is this like the Cap link issue you had earlier with your server? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #97
Going round and round Lordquinton Aug 2019 #102
Mahalo Lordquinton! Autumn Aug 2019 #113
Yep, she and I go back and forth three or four times, then as an "explanation"... George II Aug 2019 #157
luv you george... LakeArenal Aug 2019 #151
Regardless of the number of attendees, he was praised by all the pundits.. they felt it was a very Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #42
C'mon man, you're ruining the "narrative"!!!! George II Aug 2019 #47
Be sure and post the videos of all the praise by the pundits and clips of his powerful statement Autumn Aug 2019 #50
How many would you like Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #77
So you weren't talking about the actual event being discussed. Autumn Aug 2019 #80
I wish Joe was a billionaire donor so you would like him too. Princetonian Aug 2019 #83
Biden's likable enough. I just like several others more, a lot more. Autumn Aug 2019 #85
Yes I am! If you opened the links you would see that I was so don't even go there! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #90
... sheshe2 Aug 2019 #98
You replied to my post discussing the event in the OP Autumn Aug 2019 #119
Well, once again you did bother to open the links Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #156
I'm sorry. I didn't bother to look at the links. I didn't need to, you described them Autumn Aug 2019 #166
You win?? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #168
So. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #67
So melman Aug 2019 #84
Cute, Melman. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #87
cute, she? melman Aug 2019 #88
Interesting what disturbs you and what does not. nt sheshe2 Aug 2019 #89
Really? melman Aug 2019 #91
No mel. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #92
No melman Aug 2019 #93
Not playing. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #94
Okay melman Aug 2019 #95
Take it any way you wish. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #96
LOL... good one!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #154
Pile on! George II Aug 2019 #12
lol.. The OP thinks he has a really Cha Aug 2019 #100
And poor white kids? Wealthy minority kids? and 76 year old kids? IronLionZion Aug 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #20
He's going to need minorities to win the general election IronLionZion Aug 2019 #25
What makes you think he's taking minorities for granted? Are you saying... George II Aug 2019 #31
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #36
No he isn't, the let's pile on because our candidate isn't doing well is showing Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #48
They are part and parcel of the good man Joe is. Iowans sure don't think worse of him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #21
Uh oh. History repeats Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #34
Hey now... Princetonian Aug 2019 #40
It sure looks like it's going to repeat itself for Bernie again. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #107
Doh ! CentralMass Aug 2019 #52
Yikes! Lordquinton Aug 2019 #53
Disappointed. Very disappointed. Auggie Aug 2019 #58
Cringe worthy, but no big deal - people know it's Joe Biden dalton99a Aug 2019 #60
Your comment says so much. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #62
It's a Jerry Ford moment in the scheme of things dalton99a Aug 2019 #65
Classic joe. Nothing new here - we know his heart. Joe941 Aug 2019 #117
Jerry was a political disaster. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #148
Shit happens when you talk all the time. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2019 #69
Bingo! Princetonian Aug 2019 #72
thank u next EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #74
This could bring his numbers down big! BootinUp Aug 2019 #101
.. and the well-oiled gears of the Gaffe Industrial Complex click and whir ucrdem Aug 2019 #104
Occasional malapropisms and "Bidenisms" have always been Biden hlthe2b Aug 2019 #105
A thread with over 100 posts and not one of them includes the video and audio? True Dough Aug 2019 #106
In the 2008 campaign, Obama reportedly cut Biden's press access BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #108
Maybe Obama is holding back his support for Biden because of what he might say next. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #109
He wouldn't endorse anyone until there's a winner BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #110
What did Barack do from 2009-2012 besides calling Joe his brother & "the best decision I have made"? Princetonian Aug 2019 #121
Both things can easily be true BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #123
lol... is that you, David Axelrod? Princetonian Aug 2019 #124
Dangerous?? Really?? I call dangerous dotard having his fingers on the nuke buttons Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #162
I'll have to download that book. Thanks for the link. Autumn Aug 2019 #136
Written by Mark Halperin who called Barack a "dick" and was accused by 5 women of sexual harassment Princetonian Aug 2019 #147
He eventually corrected himself wellst0nev0ter Aug 2019 #111
Thanks. He did correct it really quickly, but still unfortunate. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #112
lol... Joe is alot faster than I am when I call my husband by our dog's name or tell my son to... Princetonian Aug 2019 #116
Good point. The gopeeee are going to try and take him down regardless of what he says or does Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #163
Exactly. We just have to watch Joe's back without mercy and let him do the rest. Princetonian Aug 2019 #164
I've seen it on both CNN and MSNBC. cwydro Aug 2019 #125
what's wrong... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #114
Tells me he has an accurate sense of racial wealth inequality. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #122
Wow. That is some stark sh*t! Princetonian Aug 2019 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Aug 2019 #132
It's classist loyalsister Aug 2019 #134
If Bernie said that's how his supporters would spin it BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #140
I supported Bernie last time around. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #150
and he immediately corrected himself. Are WE gonna keep this going? elleng Aug 2019 #129
Well, it's on the front page of MSNBC right now... AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #141
Not now it isn't. I'll bet they got near zero hits and lots of pissed off voters calling. Princetonian Aug 2019 #146
Still there. Look harder. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #149
You said MSNBC not MSN. I see it. Oh well, I think lots of voters know what he's talking about. Princetonian Aug 2019 #155
Sorry, I still tend to think of them as the same thing. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #158
lol... yeah. I forgot MSN still existed. Good to know! Princetonian Aug 2019 #159
Default site on all Windows machines. AtheistCrusader Aug 2019 #161
Bill Gates never makes that mistake. George II Aug 2019 #167
Thank you emulatorloo Aug 2019 #144
Are you saying this was a Russian plan? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #145
the poutrage gets more and more ridiculous ... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #135
This shows... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #137
So the real story here is that the Trump campaign disingenuously omitted his correction. ooky Aug 2019 #138
He was recognizing white privilege treestar Aug 2019 #142
Please watch this video Gothmog Aug 2019 #152
Well, it's not a holy Toledo moment now, is it? n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #165
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