Democratic Primaries

CTyankee

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62. Events with Trump every single day are peeling away votes in those blue wall states.

Reply to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 27, 2019, 08:46 AM

Sep 2019

And the media are paying close attention. Morning Joe had those "then" and "now" polling numbers side by side today. They don't bode well for the Republicans.

If you have deep concerns that this polling doesn't mean anything when election day 2020 rolls around, please discuss it here. I'd like to know what you think will "stay the same" as 2016 in those states and what might or will change due to recent events, things we didn't know in 2016.

The thing is we Dems can't wring our hands and say "nothing can be done." Like it or not, Trump is in deep doo-doo with lots of voters who swung the election to him in 2016.

Also, Elizabeth Warren isn't Hillary Clinton. The hardest of hard core won't vote for her, but the more reasonable of the 2016 phalanx that stopped HRC has "gotten what they asked for" and let's see how that plays out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren passes Biden in new nationwide poll [View all] at140 Sep 2019 OP

Happy Dance... humbled_opinion Sep 2019 #1

Warren will be the first female president! at140 Sep 2019 #2

Or possibly the second... Staph Sep 2019 #24

👍👍 Duppers Sep 2019 #28

There would be bigots out in the streets with their pitchforks and hoods. Funtatlaguy Sep 2019 #53

She is just warming up, this is just the beginning! Baclava Sep 2019 #120

Oh boy. Love her..but beating the monster more important. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #3

Trump's attacks on Biden might be having an effect. Doodley Sep 2019 #4

I don't think so. Blue_true Sep 2019 #9

Imho she'll not be able to shake loose the southern states. Biden is just so popular Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #61

I agree, unless something changes, the South will be tough for her. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #71

The shitstorm that is building as Impeachment proceedings NoMoreRepugs Sep 2019 #107

Her message about major structural change is resonating vlyons Sep 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author tirebiter Sep 2019 #76

The Big Effect is Trump getting impeached, thank you very much tirebiter Sep 2019 #78

Yes, it is worth Biden taking a hit from the uninformed if it removes Trump! Doodley Sep 2019 #85

I have a good feeling about this one... Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #5

Yeah, me too Tiggeroshii. Congrats to your candidate... you should be very proud of Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #36

Bad news evertonfc Sep 2019 #6

Well, HRC won the popular vote by over 3 million votes than Trump. CTyankee Sep 2019 #7

But the popular vote doesn't mean anything. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #26

Events with Trump every single day are peeling away votes in those blue wall states. CTyankee Sep 2019 #62

Frankly, I think Biden has far more "built-in disadvantages" DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #80

Yes a woman CAN win, especially this competent woman with a bold progressive plan to save America. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #37

A woman can. Is that woman Warren? If she wins the primary, we will see if the voters we need agree emmaverybo Sep 2019 #66

And Warren will campaign 3 times harder than HRC at140 Sep 2019 #59

Yes, Elizabeth's high energy level is very apparent... and she's highly capable and competent. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #83

In CA alone she won by over 3 million votes Polybius Sep 2019 #119

I support Warren because I like her agenda and priorities at140 Sep 2019 #8

Base. boomer_wv Sep 2019 #13

"All the base needs to be excited is a chance to throw Trump out" Duppers Sep 2019 #30

You'd think so caraher Sep 2019 #45

This isn't 2016. CTyankee Sep 2019 #65

Warren and Clinton are totally different people. Blue_true Sep 2019 #11

Yes, very true, Elizabeth would be relentless in her attack on tRump & has a bold progressive agenda InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #84

Agree! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #54

You still think that after at140 Sep 2019 #60

Not sure what you are talking about Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #95

This! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #87

The differences between 2020 and 2016 are immense. Doremus Sep 2019 #100

True but many of them although claiming to be "independent", when it gets right down to it... Ligyron Sep 2019 #127

Elizabeth will be the nominee ritapria Sep 2019 #10

It is beginning to look like you are accurate on your analysis. Blue_true Sep 2019 #12

press. boomer_wv Sep 2019 #14

I agree with you ritapria Sep 2019 #21

You might be right... and I could certainly live with that outcome!! Go Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #40

Big wins in IA & NH??? We must be looking at different early state polling!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #88

If we nominate Warren we lose. Nt jaysunb Sep 2019 #15

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #18

Why unlikeable? Tipperary Sep 2019 #19

I like her, but I don't believe America will elect a woman. ...yet. nt jaysunb Sep 2019 #20

I find that baffling, but it's looked like you're right Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #27

It very well might, as Elizabeth is the most competent female candidate to ever run for President... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #33

I certainly can support that Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #39

Who couldn't?! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #47

I'm in the Northeast, so I'm hardly alone here Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #48

You might be interested in this: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #49

Thanks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #50

Countries in which a daughter carries on for a popular father assassinated, family dynasty, , emmaverybo Sep 2019 #38

Well, more recently we have Angela Merkel, Theresa May, Jacinda Ardern and Mary Robinson Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #42

And we will too. We have had a very "Uncle Sam" imprint, a masculine archetype that figures in emmaverybo Sep 2019 #67

Agree! that person is not EW!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #90

And everyone said that about electing a black man. Tipperary Sep 2019 #44

We already did. It took treason to steal the election. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #56

She's trying to be Oklahoma Liz Green Line Sep 2019 #22

"don't like anything about her?!" caraher Sep 2019 #46

Sounds pretty misogynistic. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #57

IMHO I agree Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #55

I disagree, old buddy. She's a workhorse and a winner. blm Sep 2019 #77

She's both, but I just don't believe Americans will give her a chance. Nt jaysunb Sep 2019 #79

I do. She speaks pointedly to the issues of working families and blm Sep 2019 #81

And those issues and that ability to make them understood qualifies her to lead a superpower? emmaverybo Sep 2019 #82

That's what you want to see for now. I view her abilities blm Sep 2019 #86

I am going by what you said which you claimed was why she's THE candidate. I am also going by emmaverybo Sep 2019 #97

Me either!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #91

Correct! She will not carry the rust belt, FL, TX and AZ will fall out of play Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #89

Agree - we will lose. Dream Girl Sep 2019 #101

FWIW, that poll isn't new. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #16

This poll was released yesterday and has been posted on DU already. Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #17

It bears repeating... GO ELIZABETH!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #23

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2019 #25

BOOOOOM!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #29

I think she's the smartest candidate. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2019 #31

Without a doubt... the smartest candidate to EVER run for President!! Go Elizabeth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #34

Business majors are dumb? emmaverybo Sep 2019 #41

Seems that way to me. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2019 #43

+10 at140 Sep 2019 #58

An attitude that stereotypes people by college majors, their motives, economic beliefs, academic emmaverybo Sep 2019 #64

Emotional Intelligence? DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #68

You said it yourself, A stereotype. Many artists are cold bastards. Elizabeth Warren is an economist emmaverybo Sep 2019 #69

Just the start! Her lead over Biden will grow in the next month.NM Oregon1947 Sep 2019 #32

No question... she has stopped the Joe-mentum in only a short few months. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #35

It's one poll... the others really haven't moved Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #92

This one poll is good news, but the RCL average still has Biden ahead by 7.3% aikoaiko Sep 2019 #63

RCP average is over long time span, at140 Sep 2019 #72

That lead has been in steady decline True Dough Sep 2019 #103

I agree. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #109

Warren is ahead and I'm here for it Politicub Sep 2019 #70

We're going to lose :( LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #73

Give reasons instead of a statement without evidence...eom at140 Sep 2019 #74

Reasons Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #93

Are You Suggesting That AA Will Sit Out Against Trump? DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #94

South Carolina is the bellwether for the AA voting block, so yes his support is quite deep Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #96

Healthcare costs are #1 cause of family bankruptcies at140 Sep 2019 #99

We sure won't win True Dough Sep 2019 #104

Attitude has nothing to do with it LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #121

Have you not noticed that polls change? True Dough Sep 2019 #122

Wishful thinking; this election is do or die, and we're thowing it away LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #123

Trump is throwing it away True Dough Sep 2019 #124

I dearly hope you're right, but I don't believe it. LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #126

Looks to me like she passed the Bern tirebiter Sep 2019 #75

Good to see, would be great to see her taking lead in the Battleground though. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #98

Are you paying attention to newer polls? Biden is falling behind! at140 Sep 2019 #105

It has been a bit more than a week since I've updated. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #111

Me as well, Warren or Biden works for me...eom at140 Sep 2019 #112

Could I be a bother for some of the newer ones? Amimnoch Sep 2019 #113

Sorry if I misled you a bit.. at140 Sep 2019 #114

We will lose if she's the nominee. I would love to see a President Warren. Dream Girl Sep 2019 #102

She will not win? You have a crystal ball? at140 Sep 2019 #106

No crystal ball just my opinion. How lucky do we feel? Dream Girl Sep 2019 #108

I hate to break it to you but Biden will be portrayed as at140 Sep 2019 #110

African Americans are key. Her support among this critical segment is not strong. Dream Girl Sep 2019 #115

Yes, she can. She comes across as everyone's favorite high school teacher. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #117

She reminds voter of their favorite high school teacher. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #116

Hope you're right. I would be thrilled with a Warren presidency but don't see it. Dream Girl Sep 2019 #118

I almost got into argument marlakay Sep 2019 #125

Disappointing that she could not muster a statement defending Biden against Trump's attempt emmaverybo Sep 2019 #128

This will not go unnoticed by the electorate - not cool... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #129

Biden expects his competition to defend him? at140 Sep 2019 #131

He doesn't. I do. And I think many do who will be looking at which candidates could take a break emmaverybo Sep 2019 #138

Your concern for senator Warren is noted...eom at140 Sep 2019 #139

surpassing Joe in 2 polls isn't ascendancy onetexan Sep 2019 #130

It is news because it is NEW! at140 Sep 2019 #132

Irrelevant whether i'm unhappy about it or not. The point is it's inaccurate to use words like onetexan Sep 2019 #133

Keep in mind.... at140 Sep 2019 #134

Biden doesn't need to defend himself against the lies the Idiot & his ilk. The media is doing that onetexan Sep 2019 #135

You want to depend on media to defend the candidate? at140 Sep 2019 #136

do your homework before you make statements like that. There's been several posts here mentioning onetexan Sep 2019 #137

I remember when Sanders was the new shiny toy Butterflylady Sep 2019 #140