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Buzz cook

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37. If that's the case then
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:53 AM
Oct 2019

Perhaps the medicare for some and ACA for others could explain how they're going to pay for it.

If our current system costs 10k per person per year and we have a population of 330 million and 24 million still don't have health insurance; how are you going to pay for it, who will pay for it, will taxes go up?
That's more than 33 trillion over ten years, not counting that medical insurance costs raise at a rate higher than inflation and not counting the cost of bring the non-insured into the system.

This works out to be more than the 30 trillion cost Joe Biden claimed medicare for all would cost.

How will Warren and Sanders pay for it? The monies now being paid into private insurance will instead be paid into a public insurance program. That is not a ta unless you believe our current medicare payroll withdrawals are a tax instead of insurance. That is a frequent claim).
Further the monies that corporations paid into private insurance will go to fund public insurance. A further increase in the top tax rate will give additional funding to public health insurance.

Many calculations strongly indicate savings with M4A over the current system. A public option is our current system plus other costs. It is arguably more expensive that either M4A or our current system the ACA.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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AHA! The truth comes out. Wonder now if everyone will acknowledge it's an incomplete plan? George II Oct 2019 #1
But IS it really important to have that level of detail? thesquanderer Oct 2019 #14
Sounds good to me. On April 15 next year I'll just put a check, nothing else, in an envelope... George II Oct 2019 #15
That answer doesn't address anything I said. But as far as April 15 goes... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #18
He's been touring the country for more than four years talking about his plan. He's told us... George II Oct 2019 #19
Numerous points about your reply... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #21
There are 10 CMS Regional Offices right now.... George II Oct 2019 #24
You mean you didn't include that in the damn bill? W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #2
I see what you did there! Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #8
I want a Bugatti Chiron awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #3
Might we be seeing this soon? George II Oct 2019 #4
Hoover was a progressive, you know tirebiter Oct 2019 #20
Awesome! Cha Oct 2019 #34
You want European style social walfare then you have to pay European comradebillyboy Oct 2019 #5
Personal income tax rate in Denmark, which has been touted as an example for M4A, is 55%. George II Oct 2019 #6
Is it a case of you get what you pay for? US ranked behind Denmark in quality of life. bluewater Oct 2019 #9
Denmark is a country of 16,000 square miles, the US is 3.8 million square miles. George II Oct 2019 #12
What the hell? melman Oct 2019 #17
+1 BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #13
+1 nt redqueen Oct 2019 #23
We have known this about him. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #7
But Don't We Need A "nuts and bolts kind of" Person? Me. Oct 2019 #16
I don't consider him to be a serious Presidential candidate. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #22
What's interesting is that there were three other OPs on this interview since 9:30 AM... George II Oct 2019 #10
Mmm... tasty! NurseJackie Oct 2019 #11
"I want to pay for it in a progressive way." OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #25
Do you have a link to him saying he would double the Medicare tax rate to pay for MFA? Autumn Oct 2019 #27
Saying? Doubt it. Committing to writing? Sure: OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #28
" instead of $5,277 a year in premiums to private health insurance they would $844 a year Autumn Oct 2019 #31
It's still a regressive tax. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #32
We're paying it now in a very reactionary, regressive way. I want to pay for it in a progressive way elleng Oct 2019 #26
No matter what it costs etc., it still has to go through Congress, and get funding, so no matter... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #29
Congress writes the legislation not the candidates. Buzz cook Oct 2019 #30
With all due respect.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2019 #33
One's working on the details, the other is looking at the big picture BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #36
If that's the case then Buzz cook Oct 2019 #37
That's great... they need to put out the plan, and be ready to answer that question. Happy Hoosier Oct 2019 #38
I agree with Bernie though Buzz cook Oct 2019 #42
A dose of reality for Medicare-for-all Gothmog Oct 2019 #35
I think it IS feasible.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2019 #39
Good luck in raising the funds needed for this program Gothmog Oct 2019 #40
Biden's health care plan will be ready to go the day he's sworn into office Gothmog Oct 2019 #41
Thanks for the tweet, Goth! Biden's plan ready NOW! Cha Nov 2019 #43
+1 myohmy2 Nov 2019 #44
I honestly cannot tell if your posts are intended to be sarcastic LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #45
nope... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #46
This is a very smart position at this time. Joe941 Nov 2019 #47
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