Democratic Primaries

PatrickforO

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29. Excellent op ed! Thank you for the link. I'm bookmarking this.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:29 PM

Nov 2019

We will all be a LOT better off, materially better off, with Medicare for all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Democratic naysayers are dead wrong on Medicare for All [View all] HerbChestnut Nov 2019 OP

I'm not a 'naysayer' because of the cost - but because of Congress. nt redqueen Nov 2019 #1

+100000 Celerity Nov 2019 #4

Democrats in Congress won't pass something unless it's supported by their voters. LonePirate Nov 2019 #8

I'm to blame because republican lawmakers from Texas won't vote for M4A? redqueen Nov 2019 #10

Correct, and step 1 is to stop passing those memes around Perseus Nov 2019 #22

Translation boomer_wv Nov 2019 #60

fact. we can do this Kurt V. Nov 2019 #2

MFA will be cost effective! It's easy to see why.... at140 Nov 2019 #53

Some Dems insist on paying the "freedom tax" that accompanies private insurance "choice" LonePirate Nov 2019 #3

some naysaying. Eko Nov 2019 #5

So we shouldn't try to pass anything that might generate backlash? Heck, that's every possible bill. LonePirate Nov 2019 #6

Strawman. Eko Nov 2019 #7

No, some Dems prefer progress and change. Some Dems want to leave things alone. LonePirate Nov 2019 #9

Yes, Strawman. Eko Nov 2019 #11

You specifically implied there would be backlash and it would lead to another 45. LonePirate Nov 2019 #13

Yes, it, it, it. Eko Nov 2019 #17

Except there is backlash for everything - MFA, climate change, guns, voter rights, etc. LonePirate Nov 2019 #19

Wow. Eko Nov 2019 #21

Sigh, I realize even my last post wont explain it to you. Eko Nov 2019 #23

So we shouldn't improve health care for all Americans because we might lose some elections? LonePirate Nov 2019 #25

You are the champ at strawman. Eko Nov 2019 #30

"Some Dems want to leave things alone" TwilightZone Nov 2019 #12

Tinkering with ACA is like throwing a shot glass of water on a five alarm fire. It's a time waster. LonePirate Nov 2019 #14

Are you equating ACA to a five alarm fire? beastie boy Nov 2019 #24

If millions of Americans without sufficient health care is not a five alarm fire, then what is? LonePirate Nov 2019 #27

Tens of millions of Americans without sufficient health care. beastie boy Nov 2019 #34

Leaving shit 'that "works"' alone, is the paleo definition of conservatism. Volaris Nov 2019 #28

Your assumption is wrong! There is no democrat that doesn't want to see everyone have health ins Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #38

What's divisive is cowering to the GOP and not even trying to implement change. LonePirate Nov 2019 #42

I see you prefer drama and hyperbolae to rational debate. beastie boy Nov 2019 #48

If the GOP will oppose everything, then I prefer pushing a real solution instead of a half-measure. LonePirate Nov 2019 #49

Ummm... ACA had passed. Ten years ago. Despite the GOP opposition. beastie boy Nov 2019 #50

Congress passed the ACA with a public option, couldn't get the votes in the Senate. betsuni Nov 2019 #56

Some Dems understand that nothing can be accomplished without winning an election and know we Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #57

It can be done, it will be done Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #15

Well, it's an opinion piece, and the views are those of the author frazzled Nov 2019 #16

NO one has ever fully detailed what the actual overall cost is. No one. George II Nov 2019 #20

How can we tell if we can afford something if the details of how it's funded and.... George II Nov 2019 #18

+1 Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #51

Questions for those who support MFA: stopbush Nov 2019 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Nov 2019 #52

Don't hold your breath. George II Nov 2019 #55

Excellent op ed! Thank you for the link. I'm bookmarking this. PatrickforO Nov 2019 #29

I agree with Harry Reid Gothmog Nov 2019 #31

Harry knows!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #39

Just forget that it would save $5T over what we have now. At least. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #40

Links please Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #41

From that notorious extreme-Leftist socialist rag - Business Insider: BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #45

About Business Insider - not a conservative publication: ehrnst Nov 2019 #61

The thing is, either you're zentrum Nov 2019 #46

wrap it... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #32

What is a Democratic naysayers ? fucking with my health care is absurd. stonecutter357 Nov 2019 #33

Sadly, someone wanted to shut down this thread. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #35

What if in this environment, Public Option with increased subsidies gets us to goal faster? Hoyt Nov 2019 #36

Support for a public option has been increasing, and for Medicare-for-All has been decreasing Gothmog Nov 2019 #37

Well done. Thanks. zentrum Nov 2019 #43

"Medicare for All is affordable precisely because it is cheaper, PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #44

I don't believe that. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #58

Simple fix. Let people VOTE James48 Nov 2019 #47

That will never happen... can we please be serious? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #59

um loyalsister Nov 2019 #62

Arguing for M4A by making it not universal? dansolo Nov 2019 #64

Why don't we present it this way: One party wants you to have access to health insurance... dawg day Nov 2019 #54

Some of the early naysayers BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #63

It is a good article if one reads it but a shame the video couldn't match up with the column. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #65