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The Valley Below

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122. Middle and Working Class people subsidizing rich kid's college tuitions through paying higher taxes?

Reply to Humanist_Activist (Reply #120)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:51 PM

Dec 2019

Talk about extremely dumb arguments.

No way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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'AOC lectures Pete Buttigieg for pushing 'GOP talking point' against public education' [View all] Eric J in MN Nov 2019 OP

Pete is right and she is wrong dsc Nov 2019 #1

"Free College For Those Who Need It" crazytown Nov 2019 #2

This isn't about changing academic standards. Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #3

That is absolutely, positively wrong and AOC should know that... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #31

You people keep telling on yourselves wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #80

No, we can't. We haven't been able to for years. The only way to get back there is... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #85

Speaking of academic standards. betsuni Nov 2019 #90

I'll frame this quote wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #94

Kindly explain just how you would have done any better... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #95

The Iraq War cost more than $2.4 trillion wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #97

OK, so stop waging idiot wars. That's easy, right? TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #98

Great wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #99

where are the seats going to come from? dsc Nov 2019 #40

But that presumes that the only "real" education is a 4 year degree. The Mouth Nov 2019 #70

+1 betsuni Nov 2019 #91

THIS needs to be screamed from the highest. Constantly pushing college on everyone is stupid. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #103

I agree. Of course higher education is more than about stocking fields, career preparation, whether emmaverybo Nov 2019 #104

My 22 year old son graduated from a 2 year technical college madville Dec 2019 #112

And I bet he has a pension and benefits that beat the hell The Mouth Dec 2019 #113

Ok Improve free public education at all levels KSNY Nov 2019 #4

The kids of the rich don't typically go to public colleges, and still won't even if they're free. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #61

In many, if not most, states dsc Nov 2019 #79

two things... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #87

Well squirecam Dec 2019 #116

I think you missed my point. Barron won't be going to a public college, free or not. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2019 #118

Yep squirecam Dec 2019 #114

AOC endorsed and campaigns with Sanders left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #5

AOC was responding to Pete Buttigieg's TV ad. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #6

Yep left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #24

Bernie isn't sinking. crazytown Nov 2019 #7

I hear a lot of people say he is sinking but I never see it in the polls. Joe941 Nov 2019 #64

Why doesn't she tend to her own constituents instead of bashing DEMOCRATS?!?!?!?!? George II Nov 2019 #8

Bawaaaaahhhaaaaaaa! JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #11

Ask Gabbard. crazytown Nov 2019 #14

At least Gabbard is running for president, she isn't. George II Nov 2019 #15

Gabbard is not running for the presidency on anything more than forms. crazytown Nov 2019 #18

She's become addicted to that fame. I doubt her district is very happy with her. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #16

Many in her district (and the neighboring district, Maloney's) are VERY unhappy with her. George II Nov 2019 #17

I heard that...primary opponents indicate she is vulnerable. I don't know where she goes anyway... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #44

Funny you should mention that... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #56

Ouch. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #83

Thanks! In actuality she beat Crowley largely because the voters in NY were confused.... George II Nov 2019 #89

Word. Cha Dec 2019 #108

I would imagine. It appears she sees this job as a stepping stone to bigger things. ehrnst Nov 2019 #102

Exactly n/t left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #25

any and all publicly paid anything should be need based beachbumbob Nov 2019 #9

Do you want to end free K-12 and free public libraries? NT Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #12

The decision to educate kids K-12 and to have free public libraries is made on moral grounds Renew Deal Nov 2019 #23

12 years is justifiable on moral grounds, but 16 years is not? thesquanderer Nov 2019 #60

You make a good point Renew Deal Nov 2019 #92

Do you realize how much of the funding for those schools and libraries is local? highplainsdem Nov 2019 #29

No squirecam Dec 2019 #117

She's right. zentrum Nov 2019 #10

The tired old crutch of "Pushing GOP talking points". oldsoftie Nov 2019 #13

Agree Renew Deal Nov 2019 #20

This is where ideology meets reality Renew Deal Nov 2019 #19

"who is going to pay for it" ? crazytown Nov 2019 #22

I know. Renew Deal Nov 2019 #26

This tax is unlikely to pass constitutional muster especially with the right wing courts we have... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #45

A 2% wealth tax will NOT raise nearly enough for an MCA program. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #49

Both sides have valid reasons why their approach is the most progressive: femmedem Nov 2019 #21

Diane Ravitch shares similar views on his education policy. Reader Rabbit Nov 2019 #27

The more I learn about Buttigieg the less I like. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #67

That's funny. I haven't seen anyone post as much anti-Pete stuff as you. Quackers Nov 2019 #100

Show me where I'm wrong. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #101

Maybe when you referred to him as Mayo Pete in multiple threads just cause he's white? Quackers Dec 2019 #107

So A) you got nothing and B) you can't read. BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #109

Less than a month old account with multiple hides, I think it's obvious what you're doing. Quackers Dec 2019 #111

Here's my post BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #121

Thanks for posting the D. Ravitch article. appalachiablue Nov 2019 #93

That may actually help Buttigieg with any Dem who isn't already in the Sanders/AOC left wing of the highplainsdem Nov 2019 #28

That was my thought as well; Sanders' base won't budge, but it makes AOC look bad LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #32

Something about 'a base' that won't budge empedocles Nov 2019 #35

+100000 Celerity Nov 2019 #37

Agreed. Nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #62

Free public college for 80% of students lapucelle Nov 2019 #30

Welcome to purity testing LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #33

If it doesn't agree 100% it's a republican talking point. George II Nov 2019 #36

Andrew Cuomo spearheaded a program similar to Pete's here in NY. lapucelle Nov 2019 #41

Andrew Cuomo is rounding out to be a pretty good governor. I wasn't very happy with him.... George II Nov 2019 #46

The community colleges did not have open admissions back when CUNY/SUNY were free. lapucelle Nov 2019 #54

We never really looked much into community colleges, they just weren't for me. I wound up.... George II Nov 2019 #55

Cooper Union? Whoa...that's impressive. lapucelle Nov 2019 #57

Yes, I was very lucky to be accepted. Back then they got roughly 2500 applications per year... George II Nov 2019 #105

Here in GA you get free tuition from the lottery if you're grades are above X. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #50

All or nothing. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #84

Wish she would first do her voters. As a backup hope, since she cannot stop empedocles Nov 2019 #34

WaPo : Pete Buttigieg's college affordability plan is actually the most progressive Celerity Nov 2019 #38

Let em go at it!! Both "rush in where I where angels fear to go" Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #39

Well, there are more poor kids than kids of millionaires Merlot Nov 2019 #42

Public colleges that have charged admission for decades are being "dismantled"? brooklynite Nov 2019 #43

Everything Has Been Tilted Rightward colsohlibgal Nov 2019 #47

But no one ever actually paid those rates back then. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #51

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #48

Doesn't she have some Republicans murielm99 Nov 2019 #52

Under Bernie's plan will the colleges have to admit anyone who applies, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #53

Admission criteria would be unaffected. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #65

Some great questions and points there. Lots of things to consider. George II Nov 2019 #74

That's a strongly worded tweet indeed. Very strongly worded. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2019 #58

The NERVE of HIM whistler162 Nov 2019 #59

She is correct to call his out on this. Joe941 Nov 2019 #63

Yup, I'm with AOC!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #96

Can we just agree that Buttigieg is not the be-all & do-all savior his supporters claim he his? BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #66

So are you against Pell Grants ? FreeState Nov 2019 #68

So, you agree with AOC that Buttigieg is wrong. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #69

No and you didn't answer my question FreeState Nov 2019 #72

+100000 Celerity Nov 2019 #75

My answer is in the comment you replied to, and my previous reply. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #88

I don't like the way she accuses democrats of using "republican talking points." OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #71

Since when is being opposed to subsiding rich kids a "rightwing talking point?" The Valley Below Nov 2019 #73

'Right Wing Talking Point' is anything that Sanders disagrees with. nt Celerity Nov 2019 #77

LOL. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #78

it is voter suppression from the far left, and it is being done in plain slight Celerity Nov 2019 #81

I could not agree more. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #106

+1,000,000 George II Nov 2019 #86

Really, so apply this to anything that's provided to the public "free of charge"... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #120

Middle and Working Class people subsidizing rich kid's college tuitions through paying higher taxes? The Valley Below Dec 2019 #122

But that's not what would happen, why continue with the lies? n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #123

It is exactly what would happen. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #124

How, from a practical standpoint, would that happen? Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #125

Assbackwards is having wealthy kid's tuitions paid for by taxes. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #126

Why not? There parents are going to pay a lot higher taxes so that... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #127

My argument is help those who need help. Simple. Logical. Progressive. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #128

Means testing is just a method for reducing the ability of those who need help from receiving it. Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #129

Malarkey The Valley Below Dec 2019 #130

Again with dishonest framing. Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #133

Pot, kettle, black. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #134

Is AOC on the attack for Bernie? If so i'm against Democrats attacking dem4decades Nov 2019 #76

Time for AOC to be defeated in the primary nt NYMinute Nov 2019 #82

good luck with that one Celerity Dec 2019 #110

You know she won with a 12% turnout in the primary right? NYMinute Dec 2019 #131

It isn't going to happen. She is going to win easily. nt Celerity Dec 2019 #132

Nothing wrong with disagreement over a substantive issue. BlueWI Dec 2019 #115

Wow, this is such a dumbass argument on Pete's part, how can anyone see it as reasonable? n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #119