Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Nader supporter Michael Moore needs to shut up [View all]Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)and both Clinton's defended their health care plan. Johnson would not have been elected in 92...and it took Perot in 92 and Buchanan in 96 for Clinton to win...he never had a majority...when we have presidents like Reagan and now Trump...the country takes a sharp turn right...and now we have the courts in the hands of the right for a generation...if we lose the ACA do you think this sort will find M4A constitutional? We could very well lose the ACA thanks to the combined efforts of the right and the left which is a damned disgrace...the ACA should have been supported until and unless we were in a position to actually pass M4A which are not now and may never be.
We sacrificed our house majority to bring health care to millions of people ...made people understand what it is to have health care...but now we must tear it down and start anew according to the 'woke' left but the choice is not between M4A and the ACA ( it never was) but between the ACA and nothing. Obama fought for what we could reasonably get and the left/Green betrayed him in 10 and 14...and in the end what will we have? I fear a big fat nothing...we could lose health care for a generation. And if Trump wins again, the progressive movement is finished for God knows how long.
I seriously don't want to hear about Roosevelt (who was not liberal really but rose to the occasion) or Johnson ...they are long gone. And we live in different more desperate times. We need 21st Century solutions...M4A is of the past and we could have built on the ACA to produce a 21st century solution...but now I fear we may have nothing in the end. I view it as the left/ Green once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden