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Gothmog

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15. His sister was called the c-word and cursed at by sanders delegates at the national convention

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:32 PM

Jan 2020

Last edited Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:12 PM - Edit history (1)

He saw and heard about sanders delegates booing John Lewis. I have autographed copies of two of Lewis' books that my son reminded me that he is supposed to get.

Again, my son is a maxed out Warren donor but he does not want to support sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren supporters need to know that their vote for Warren could wind up being a vote for Bernie. [View all] Gothmog Jan 2020 OP

That is exactly the plan...all this Sanders and Warren team shit...it is a deal breaker for me... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #1

I doubt that this plan will work Gothmog Jan 2020 #2

Yes. Warren is no more Sanders than Biden is. Hortensis Jan 2020 #32

Get back to the issues people. DemocracyMouse Jan 2020 #126

You totally misunderstand. CHARACTER is huge. Hortensis Jan 2020 #128

Yep empedocles Jan 2020 #136

So we all totally misunderstand? brutus smith Jan 2020 #138

I was glad DemocracyMouse realizes we're in a giant Hortensis Jan 2020 #141

Democrats are not "fighting for ... the rich" and "the monopolists." betsuni Jan 2020 #129

Very well said DemocracyMouse LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #179

I don't think it will work either...one son and one daughter supported Warren but have switched to Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80

My kids are hard core democrats Gothmog Jan 2020 #83

Mine too...in fact my daughters boyfriend who didn't vote often now does as does my son's wife and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #84

I haven't thought that far ahead regarding who Hortensis Jan 2020 #218

I predict that if we keep making this about 2016, we will all lose Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #3

+1 redqueen Jan 2020 #6

Sorry, I will never get over 16 and I don't think Sanders helped Clinton in the General enough. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

At this point, whats done is done as far as 2016 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #107

It is not done. It will live on and on with bad policy , a right wing Scotus Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #142

There are a significant number of real democrats with good memories Gothmog Jan 2020 #123

Stop with the "Real Democrat" nonsense Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #125

Democrats vote for the nominee. Already you hear from justice Democrats Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #144

I would/will/do expect that everyone here will vote for the nominee in the GE Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #231

THIS. BlueWI Jan 2020 #223

Wishing this post could be pinned to the top of this forum. JudyM Jan 2020 #232

I agree. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #143

"I will never get over 16" brutus smith Jan 2020 #139

But I will vote for the nominee even if it is Sanders in the general. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #145

I would also add...that I hold Warren completely blameless for the 2016 general. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #162

+1,000,000 Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #121

Really, so you don't think having a brokered convention and taking two candidates delegates and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #160

I'm supporting Warren but I do like what Steyer has to say and I agree with your assessment of CTyankee Jan 2020 #190

I think the one with greater potential is... Mike Nelson Jan 2020 #4

huh? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #64

I like Warren. But I dont think she can win the states we need to win in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #146

I am a Warren supporter BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #180

If your camp REALLY cared it wouldn't have attacked Warren for 3mths as it laid off blm Jan 2020 #5

+1. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #14

This! yuiyoshida Jan 2020 #28

Thank you. kag Jan 2020 #77

This. n/t ms liberty Jan 2020 #133

. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #7

Sharing a tweet from some random instead of linking directly to the intercept? redqueen Jan 2020 #8

She seems nice... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #75

Reminder: The primary belongs to us. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #9

I don't agree with that assessment, and I sure wouldn't follow the analysis of the Intercept still_one Jan 2020 #10

As a Warren supporter, I thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #110

I don't know how old your son is but hatred is a learned response. Autumn Jan 2020 #11

His sister was called the c-word and cursed at by sanders delegates at the national convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #15

I'm sure you have video right? You should spread that video far and wide. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #17

I was at the National Convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #19

Like I said. Post the video. Sorry, but I can't take your word for it without proof. Autumn Jan 2020 #24

I was there and I saw what happen Gothmog Jan 2020 #25

Wow, you can't possibly be telling the truth because you didn't get a video of it.... George II Jan 2020 #29

I was yelled at and called names by sanders delegates Gothmog Jan 2020 #45

And when the media does dare vet or fact check, they are swarmed as being "corporatist tools" ehrnst Jan 2020 #69

Thanks for making my point George. That video is obviously fake, a half blind person can Autumn Jan 2020 #50

You didn't watch the video, just the opening still. It's about 7 minutes long, showing Lewis... George II Jan 2020 #58

DON'T GO BRINGING FACTS INTO THIS!!! ehrnst Jan 2020 #68

I was very amused by this also Gothmog Jan 2020 #81

"There are none so blind as those who will not see" George II Jan 2020 #93

There were lots of news stories about Sanders supporters behaving badly at the 2016 DNC. Here's one highplainsdem Jan 2020 #90

Bernie's supporters even disrupted HIM when he said Trump must be defeated, Hillary elected! betsuni Jan 2020 #100

Have you watched the video yet? George II Jan 2020 #91

That's Full Frontal with Samantha Bee. betsuni Jan 2020 #105

OMG these Bernie or Bust people are just like deplorables only they use bigger words. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #99

I suddenly remembered the "fart-in" they wanted to do. betsuni Jan 2020 #101

If you want video, you will see if sanders is ever deemed to be a viable candidate in the real world Autumn Jan 2020 #33

sanders is not considered viable in the real world and so there is no need to vet him Gothmog Jan 2020 #43

FYI delegates are selected at the state level, not by the candidate. No vetting by the candidate Autumn Jan 2020 #44

You are totally and completely wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #55

I have heard about that behavior from more than one person who was present. ehrnst Jan 2020 #62

Pledged delegates are selected through a series of individual state caucuses and primary elections. Autumn Jan 2020 #67

You are wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #78

Well, in caucuses the people don't vote. A small group does all the deciding for the population. ehrnst Jan 2020 #57

I know how the process works in Texas and I have read up on other states Gothmog Jan 2020 #118

Nuts & Bolts: Attending a convention can be expensive. Here's how to afford it Gothmog Jan 2020 #235

So much for "ending the conversation right here." ehrnst Jan 2020 #74

Really? George II Jan 2020 #73

Someone is calling you a liar, I guess. ehrnst Jan 2020 #52

Calling a lawyer names is a waste of time and effort Gothmog Jan 2020 #56

Another form of "shoot the messenger." ehrnst Jan 2020 #60

I was amused by this Gothmog Jan 2020 #79

Not every truthful statement has a video NYMinute Jan 2020 #48

Nope, not going to delete it. All I said is if he has video of that he should post it far and wide. Autumn Jan 2020 #54

Of course you won't delete it. NYMinute Jan 2020 #72

My belief is that you called the person a liar for recounting a personal experience. Blue_true Jan 2020 #92

I am not going to refight the 2016 primary Gothmog Jan 2020 #119

I am not trying to refight the 2016 prinary either. Blue_true Jan 2020 #224

Poor Conduct? ForEverGlades Jan 2020 #237

So booing Congressman John Lewis was good conduct? Gothmog Jan 2020 #238

Anyone at the convention could tell pretty much the same thing. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #85

The poster has recounted that event several times here on DU. Blue_true Jan 2020 #86

I can't speak to personal insults by Sanders supporters... brooklynite Jan 2020 #87

I can't speak to personal insults by Sanders supporters either. When we caucused I saw Autumn Jan 2020 #89

Chicago, 1968 comes to mind. mountain grammy Jan 2020 #114

So true. JudyM Jan 2020 #16

Goodness me, Gothmog must have really hit a nerve... ehrnst Jan 2020 #37

It did enough for you to respond. Autumn Jan 2020 #40

I'm talking about your attempt to needle Gothmog via their attacking their son ehrnst Jan 2020 #42

Could you please post some images of your credentials in neurobiology? lapucelle Jan 2020 #130

Yes. What happened to "Sorry, but I can't take your word for it without proof"? betsuni Jan 2020 #134

"Videos or it didn't happen" is a form of entitled gaslighting. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #161

I never said I had any credentials in neurobiology so you're out of luck on that. But kudos for Autumn Jan 2020 #167

Those who know little to little to nothing about a specialized topic lapucelle Jan 2020 #172

That would shut up just about everyone here wouldn't it. Autumn Jan 2020 #173

I don't think it would, at least not for me or like-situated allies. lapucelle Jan 2020 #182

Now listening to: Cary Jan 2020 #221

Wow. So vote Biden because he is mostly likely to beat Trump and vote Biden because might Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #12

The Intercept? progressoid Jan 2020 #13

In order for a publication to be an irrelevant fringe publication it must first Autumn Jan 2020 #22

Oh, sure. That makes sense. progressoid Jan 2020 #26

The OP was commenting on an Intercept article's claims, not promoting it. ehrnst Jan 2020 #46

Interesting to see Biden supporters embracing The Intercept BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #102

I think when those are posted it's called a right wing rag. redqueen Jan 2020 #206

Works for me marlakay Jan 2020 #18

I'm fine with either of them being our candidate. So...oh well. n/t TCJ70 Jan 2020 #20

Seems a little far-fetched to me hurl Jan 2020 #21

Warren is already on the hot seat with Clinton supporters like me NYMinute Jan 2020 #23

Not with me. Warren was a great campaign surrogate for HRC blm Jan 2020 #34

She was a great supporter after all the divisiveness had set in. NYMinute Jan 2020 #53

Well, she was being urged by Biden at the time to stick with him blm Jan 2020 #61

Cool story NYMinute Jan 2020 #66

Biden wanted to run and wanted Warren with him. blm Jan 2020 #104

He was not going to run. He has been at loggerheads with Warren NYMinute Jan 2020 #106

Uh, it's well known. Perhaps you missed all the reports. blm Jan 2020 #109

It is not true. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #147

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #108

Please tell us why. betsuni Jan 2020 #116

Not with me. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #115

Ok by me - they are my top 2 choices nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #27

My preference is Warren, then Klobuchar, then Biden. Bleacher Creature Jan 2020 #30

This is a highly inaccurate statement. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #31

This is just a manipulative attempt to attack Warren and blame her supporters blm Jan 2020 #36

Maybe I don't recognize what you are saying because I am also a Warren supporter. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #41

I see Biden camp attempting to guilt Warren supporters into dropping her blm Jan 2020 #47

Hard to blame us. I'm even working on you right here. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #63

The tweet IS dishonest. And Biden camp's use of it is dishonest blm Jan 2020 #71

This. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #98

Here is one of more than a few posts on this subject... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #168

Huh? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #35

The manipulation strategy is pretty obvious. blm Jan 2020 #38

This OP is a fear/hate-based attempt to try and move Warren supporters to Biden... TCJ70 Jan 2020 #49

Exactly blm Jan 2020 #65

This is one of the reasons why I recently switched my support from Warren to Biden. W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #39

+1000. Nt Heartstrings Jan 2020 #59

I'm fine with that janterry Jan 2020 #51

Complete fucking bullshit, Warren supporters are going to vote for Liz Baclava Jan 2020 #70

That intercept article reaches high heights of delusional paranoia bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #76

And opportunists are using it to lay guilt on Warren supporters blm Jan 2020 #112

I am not a fan of that publication Gothmog Jan 2020 #124

My vote for Warren will be for Warren... lame54 Jan 2020 #88

Warren is my first choice. Bernie's my second. milestogo Jan 2020 #94

Great post! Thank you! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #95

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #96

K&R for further consideration. nt TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #97

Just because a progressive group purposes this, does not make it so karynnj Jan 2020 #103

Then squirecam Jan 2020 #113

I completely agree. Nt karynnj Jan 2020 #120

A vote for Warren is a vote for Sanders? Vile. crazytown Jan 2020 #111

Also this. n/t ms liberty Jan 2020 #135

Have you not seen it here? How Sanders and Warren are a team? You couldn't Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #157

This is bullshit jcgoldie Jan 2020 #117

Biden supporters need to know they are hurting their candidate with this kind of trashing of others Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #122

Did you see the lies put out in a Sanders news letter about Biden? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #152

But what about... /nt tonedevil Jan 2020 #164

We haven't even had our first primary. dchill Jan 2020 #127

2 ideologically candidates might support each other? Wabbajack_ Jan 2020 #131

That depends. First of all Warren is not the same as Sanders. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #153

A vote for warren duforsure Jan 2020 #132

That is not true. The team plan is for all of Warrens delegates to Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #155

Warren supporters hating Sanders? KayF Jan 2020 #137

Beware of people that are here only to divide us. nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #140

Former Clinton supporters like me who feel he did not support her in the general Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #148

This shit is gotten fucking tired ... DaDeacon Jan 2020 #149

No one said that. Although,I do worry about enthusiasm ... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #150

Really?!?! DaDeacon Jan 2020 #154

Older voters are more reliable and vote more regularly, wouldnt want to dampen their Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #156

No one can do it alone!!! DaDeacon Jan 2020 #185

I hope Gothmog takes the time consider your point. blm Jan 2020 #151

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states Gothmog Jan 2020 #165

We will in all likelihood lose Virginia which would be a devastating loss...if Biden is not the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #171

Biden is the only Democrats who can pick up both Florida and Virginia Gothmog Jan 2020 #174

This is true. A win in Florida would mean Trump loses;how can we not nominate a candidate who can Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #177

Inch or a mile. DaDeacon Jan 2020 #186

Warren can and you are attacking her candidacy and blm Jan 2020 #187

Warren will also lose to trump also but probably by less than sanders Gothmog Jan 2020 #192

Baloney. Warren is the BEST candidate to take on Trump. blm Jan 2020 #193

Not according to the polling in the real world Gothmog Jan 2020 #195

Warren is best general election counter to Trump's corruption. blm Jan 2020 #199

Again, Warren's wine cave attacked backfired and failed Gothmog Jan 2020 #208

Who polled Warren's anti-corruption platform against Trump and blm Jan 2020 #211

Again, I note that Warren herself has realized that her wine celler attacked backfired Gothmog Jan 2020 #216

Stick to the poll poll poll rut you find comfortable. Real world is that there blm Jan 2020 #217

The real world is a nice place where facts matter Gothmog Jan 2020 #219

Fact: A vote for Warren is a vote for Warren. blm Jan 2020 #220

It is sanders who is attacking establishment Democrats and who wants to remake the party Gothmog Jan 2020 #163

So your answer is to attack Warren's candidacy for 3months and blm Jan 2020 #191

I have not attack Warren Gothmog Jan 2020 #194

Oh, the old GOP 'flawed' card when they haven't an actual case. blm Jan 2020 #197

Her plan does not add up in the real world Gothmog Jan 2020 #198

You didn't read the REAL WORLD acknowledgment that blm Jan 2020 #207

+1. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #210

I read your material but I have also read real analysis that come to a different conclusion Gothmog Jan 2020 #214

You are peddling a FANTASY and then claim to adhere blm Jan 2020 #222

For this thread Gothmog Jan 2020 #234

Sounds good to me. They are the two best, and only progressive, candidates. Magoo48 Jan 2020 #158

Biden is a progressive and he can actually beat Trump...the others not so much. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #169

SIGH Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #225

Sounds okay to me yellowwoodII Jan 2020 #159

Lol..Is that supposed to scare us? whathehell Jan 2020 #166

No,please emphasize that a vote for Warren is a vote for Sanders...please do this as often as Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #170

Many see them as almost interchangeable on the issues.. whathehell Jan 2020 #175

Good luck. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #176

Back at ya.. whathehell Jan 2020 #178

"The Warren supporters I know hate sanders" WTF? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #181

I don't buy it for even one minute that Warren supporters hate Bernie. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #184

Warren is a solid Democrat, Sanders is not. Warren supported HRC in 2016, Sanders did everything he Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #188

lol LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #201

Warren has been a Democrat and strengthen the party for over two decades. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #204

lol LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #205

Hate is a very destructive emotion. We see enough of that from the Republicans and from that clown totodeinhere Jan 2020 #183

the second choice for 30% of Warren supporters is Bernie Sanders booley Jan 2020 #189

Which means that either 67% or 70% of Warren supporters prefer a different candidate Gothmog Jan 2020 #196

before you get excited... booley Jan 2020 #200

I have been volunteering on voter protection issues for a very long time Gothmog Jan 2020 #203

I think you make too many assumptions booley Jan 2020 #212

I'd be okay with that. Doremus Jan 2020 #202

I'd love Bernie to win! Tink41 Jan 2020 #209

I love the smell of desparation in the morning LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #213

Well Gothmog, you've been here almost as long as I have ms liberty Jan 2020 #215

THIS. JudyM Jan 2020 #233

LOL I'm okay with that. Centrist crack me up. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #226

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #227

I thought you put your money on Bernie?!?!? marble falls Jan 2020 #229

Fine with me caraher Jan 2020 #228

This thread brings a tear to my eye TSIAS Jan 2020 #230

Michael Moore says Warren & Sanders need to reconcile and agree to combine their delegates Gothmog Jan 2020 #236