Democratic Primaries

Lazy Daisy

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67. biggest reason

Reply to LAS14 (Reply #55)

Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:34 AM

Mar 2019

body autonomy

lots of other reasons, but that's the biggest one

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Before you accept Flores's story about Biden, you need to read this. [View all] highplainsdem Mar 2019 OP

Would Biden have put his hands on the shoulders spooky3 Mar 2019 #1

Thank you. Tipperary Mar 2019 #10

You're welcome. Nt spooky3 Mar 2019 #12

Do a youtube search and see for yourself roody Mar 2019 #13

Youtube? TwilightZone Mar 2019 #29

So, without actually looking at any evidence, you've passed judgement... brooklynite Mar 2019 #53

No, I've seen the kind of stuff that comes up when one searches for Joe Biden on youtube. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #57

I'm not a right winger. roody Mar 2019 #112

Thank you! True Blue American Mar 2019 #77

Biden's actions were wrong... sacto95834 Mar 2019 #111

I agree... even if Flores WAS nervous, so what? How does that excuse unwanted touching? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #116

Nope. He did nothing wrong even if her story is true which just I doubt. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #131

NO SHIT tymorial Mar 2019 #150

yes... handmade34 Mar 2019 #17

Thank you for posting that! highplainsdem Mar 2019 #25

Biden is a good man demosincebirth Mar 2019 #58

Those are hugs. He's not nuzzling his nose into the necks and hair of these males. pnwmom Mar 2019 #59

Yes he is VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #70

Eva is a woman. I said he didn't do that behavior with MALES. pnwmom Mar 2019 #72

I'm tryin to be fair to Joe... but, come on. You have to listen to what the victims are saying... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #117

These stories have been out there for decades. When has Joe ever tried to explain them? pnwmom Mar 2019 #132

Victim? She's a VICTIM? I mean LOL here. LOL. nt UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #134

neck? Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #127

He has nuzzled different women in different ways. Just go to google images pnwmom Mar 2019 #141

Thank you for THIS! democratisphere Mar 2019 #107

Thank you for this. I'm copying these photos for my twitter responses. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #115

+100 Starry Messenger Mar 2019 #32

Obama kissed Joe here. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #35

This is very different. These two are beloved friends spooky3 Mar 2019 #41

He didn't know this 13 year old boy. A cancer survivor. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #45

That's a hug and it is mutual. This isn't the same as some of the photos pnwmom Mar 2019 #62

PRESIDENT Obama. nt MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #54

Yes. President Obama. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #63

"The skinny guy with the funny name." I remember that, and I remember how I wanted him to run, even NBachers Mar 2019 #66

How can you compare this?! You can't be serious. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #118

He would definitely have put his hands on the shoulders of a young worried male. lark Mar 2019 #87

Okay, I'll give you (and Joe) that much. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #119

You had to mention Flores is a Bernie supporter... well that splains EVERYTHING!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #2

It certainly provides a motivation for raising this from a skewed perspective. MH1 Mar 2019 #86

Wow... okay. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #89

Thank you.. I came online a few minutes ago Peacetrain Mar 2019 #3

Your early... 4139 Mar 2019 #4

It's "You're early," not "Your early." And no, it isn't April 1, and the OP wasn't a joke. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #9

Click on the twitter link below for complete statement from the Biden camp still_one Mar 2019 #5

wow, that's a hell of a thread bigtree Mar 2019 #15

Thank you. elleng Mar 2019 #6

You're welcome! highplainsdem Mar 2019 #98

just woke up and read this story from your post bigtree Mar 2019 #7

Really? You don't see an attempt at reassurance as any different than what the Mediaite highplainsdem Mar 2019 #8

As another poster asked you, would he do that to a male? Tipperary Mar 2019 #11

I posted this above. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #38

That looks consensual lol. Tipperary Mar 2019 #74

Maybe Flores will clear it up bigtree Mar 2019 #14

So you are claiming that Flores rusty fender Mar 2019 #16

You need to read more carefully. He kissed the back of her head (probably the top), not her neck. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #19

But Biden didn't touch you, rusty fender Mar 2019 #21

Just because you're a female Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #42

THIS... another voice of reason. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #93

Well put True Dough Mar 2019 #103

Thank you Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #34

I know! rusty fender Mar 2019 #46

Don't get me wrong Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #49

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #90

Coming up behind someone, putting your hands on their shoulders and putting your face in their WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #18

You need to read more carefully. He didn't come up behind her -- they were lined up highplainsdem Mar 2019 #23

"And some people here think this should disqualify him from running for president?" WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #28

I would be screwed. I am a toucher. An innocent toucher but a toucher none the less. GemDigger Mar 2019 #20

"BUT if the person being touched says NOTHING then they can't squak later when it suits their WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #30

You can hold your encouragement. I said they weren't mine, not that I didn't know them. Yes, I GemDigger Mar 2019 #37

Even if you know them, it's important that they know they have autonomy over their own bodies. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #39

One of the worse parenting mistakes Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #43

Exactly right. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #50

Why is it one of the worst mistakes? nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #55

biggest reason Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #67

I'm sorry to see society move in this direction. Instinctive willingness... LAS14 Mar 2019 #142

Bull! True Blue American Mar 2019 #83

I agree. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #143

Do I dare tell you that today, I even chased down a little tyke, grabbed him, and ran with him? GemDigger Mar 2019 #47

You've told me twice now. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #48

This is like having a conversation with my drunken ex spouse. I did not tell you that twice. GemDigger Mar 2019 #51

You have mentioned twice now Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #68

You did tell me twice, as the other poster noted. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #81

First time I read it True Blue American Mar 2019 #84

It's a good thing you are not a public school teacher, cause you wouldn't last long. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #94

Wrong. Women have to make decisions about complaining about this kind of thing FREQUENTLY pnwmom Mar 2019 #60

This is inappropriate touching VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #71

So am I True Blue American Mar 2019 #78

Would Trump get the same benefit of the doubt if he tried to "reassure" someone the same way? Renew Deal Mar 2019 #22

Possibly not, but Biden isn't Trump. Biden isn't someone who divorced two of three wives and highplainsdem Mar 2019 #36

No, because he has admitted True Blue American Mar 2019 #79

Here is what I just posted on another thread on this topic Mme. Defarge Mar 2019 #24

Great post! Thanks! highplainsdem Mar 2019 #27

Avec plaisir, mon brave. Mme. Defarge Mar 2019 #44

I'm skeptical of Cha Mar 2019 #26

The timing of this story's release, and the fact Flores is a Sanders supporter, are valid reasons highplainsdem Mar 2019 #31

Yes, you're making very good Cha Mar 2019 #40

I am more True Blue American Mar 2019 #82

There are tons of photos of Biden Evergreen Emerald Mar 2019 #106

Yeah, let's not believe women who come forward after having already been victimized once... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #121

OMG people, dont believe these lies onetexan Mar 2019 #33

The smear the Democrats network led by Sirota BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #52

It appears to me that Biden's response is an indication that this indeed did happen. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #56

Not sure how you got that impression. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #64

Biden's response was gracious BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #75

Yeah, throw in the Bernie insult... why not? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #120

It did strike me as somewhat suspect... I'd have to see Joe live and in person, however... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #124

Joe has made that grandfatherly gesture a lot of times BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #140

Oh geez he kissed a back of a head... LakeArenal Mar 2019 #61

I am so tired of this crap! videohead5 Mar 2019 #65

Totally agree. Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #104

Photo of biden with eva longoria at Nevada event VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #69

There's nothing at all inappropriate about it, especially if he was whispering something to her. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #99

This happened 5 years ago quickesst Mar 2019 #73

Many considerate people are hands on. True Blue American Mar 2019 #76

Exactly. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #101

I don't like being touched Jarqui Mar 2019 #80

I don't like being touched by strangers, but I can't imagine being whathehell Mar 2019 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Mar 2019 #85

Biden's critics, especially in the GOP, have tried to misuse that innocent behavior for years, even highplainsdem Mar 2019 #88

Ageeed. Joe is whispering in her ear. crazytown Mar 2019 #95

Thank you. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #97

Right! True Blue American Mar 2019 #110

I don't want any males, except my husband & grandsons putting their hands on and/or kissing me. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #91

That's your prerogative, of course, but I hope you'll keep in mind, as I pointed out in reply 96 highplainsdem Mar 2019 #100

I certainly do let men know if their behavior is inappropriate. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #108

Simple concept: keep you hands to yourself The Genealogist Mar 2019 #92

Simple concept: Some people are huggers, and some aren't. And politicians in general highplainsdem Mar 2019 #96

No sorry, its creepy behavior and grossly inappropriate tymorial Mar 2019 #102

Omigod, then we'd better have laws against anyone putting a reassuring hand on someone's shoulder, highplainsdem Mar 2019 #105

+10000 Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #123

Putting hand on someone sure. tymorial Mar 2019 #148

"Creepy" as described. He was an old pro old enough to Hortensis Mar 2019 #128

Every politician whether male or female touches supporters and peers.... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #145

Sniffing hair and kissing the back of her head. tymorial Mar 2019 #146

How did she know he didn't have the sniffles? I doubt that he kissed her head..nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #147

Okay we are done. tymorial Mar 2019 #149

See ya! Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #151

Cant we wait MFM008 Mar 2019 #113

Shrug, we're in the primary? I'm just happy that only a few Hortensis Mar 2019 #129

Thanks HPD EricMaundry Mar 2019 #114

It's only going to get worse customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #125

Or my theory...she is a Sanders supporter and made it up. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #122

Seeing is believing... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #136

A dogmatic "take the accuser's position" is not great in my opinion. David__77 Mar 2019 #126

Flores is on the board of our revolution Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #130

Yes, and that does raise questions about her bringing up this story now. But I'm trying highplainsdem Mar 2019 #133

How about jo didn't endorse her. I think she is trying to help Sanders Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #135

Biden is famous for his uninvited neck/shoulder rubs that make Perrenial Voter Mar 2019 #137

Don't you have biden confused with dubya? nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #138

Oh, good grief. You're blaming Biden for George W. Bush massaging Merkel's shoulders highplainsdem Mar 2019 #139

Merkel, LOL, that was Bushler. ucrdem Mar 2019 #144

I don't recall ever hearin any similar story about Obama AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #152

This woman felt justifiably uncomfortable. You have turned her complaint into a smear campaign vsrazdem Mar 2019 #153

Seems like a fatherly gesture. I would have ALBliberal Mar 2019 #154