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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Vox: Sanders supporters are annoying & antagonistic, so let him win, & Dems will magically get along [View all]highplainsdem
(49,040 posts)29. Again, according to the info I just found, he was on the ballot as a presidential elector, and not
as the SWP candidate.
Joe Lockhart piece in CNN a few days ago:
http://m.cnn.com/en/article/h_b2b013b579c3336442a6c4f131303fdb
Let's start with what he calls himself (and the label Trump tries to stick to every Democrat): a socialist. There's no ducking this one -- Bernie has said a lot over the years, and a lot of it on camera. The Associated Press reports that in a 1983 reelection debate he said, "I am a socialist, of course, I am a socialist." The Washington Examiner reported last year that in 1980 and 1984, Sanders campaigned for the Socialist Workers Party. The report said that Sanders "proudly endorsed and supported" the Marxist group's presidential candidate, Andrew Pulley, in 1980. According to the report, in a press release, Sanders said, "I fully support the SWP's continued defense of the Cuban revolution."
From the Washington Examiner report Lockhart references there:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/bernie-sanders-campaigned-for-marxist-party-in-reagan-era
The 2020 Democratic presidential primary candidate and United States senator from Vermont, now 77, often scoffs at comparisons between his brand of self-described "democratic socialism" and communism. In recent years, he has said he is merely interested in having the United States look more like Sweden, a social democracy with a broad welfare state but a well-functioning private sector.
But his personal files from his time as mayor of Burlington, from 1981 to 1989, archived at the University of Vermont, show that he supported and campaigned for the communist SWP and maintained a close relationship with its senior members. While Democrats campaigned for President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Walter Mondale in 1984, Sanders spent the Reagan era supporting fringe Marxists with no chance of reaching the White House.
In 1980, Sanders "proudly endorsed and supported" Andrew Pulley, the party's presidential candidate, who once said that American soldiers should "take up their guns and shoot their officers." Sanders was one of three electors for Pulley on the Vermont ballot, stating in a press release: "I fully support the SWP's continued defense of the Cuban revolution."
Four years later, he backed and campaigned for the SWP presidential nominee Mel Mason, a former Black Panther, saying it was important for there to be "fundamental alternatives to capitalist ideology." During the campaign, Mason praised the Russian and Chinese revolutions and said: "The greatest example of a socialist government is Cuba, and Nicaragua is right behind, but it's still developing."
But his personal files from his time as mayor of Burlington, from 1981 to 1989, archived at the University of Vermont, show that he supported and campaigned for the communist SWP and maintained a close relationship with its senior members. While Democrats campaigned for President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Walter Mondale in 1984, Sanders spent the Reagan era supporting fringe Marxists with no chance of reaching the White House.
In 1980, Sanders "proudly endorsed and supported" Andrew Pulley, the party's presidential candidate, who once said that American soldiers should "take up their guns and shoot their officers." Sanders was one of three electors for Pulley on the Vermont ballot, stating in a press release: "I fully support the SWP's continued defense of the Cuban revolution."
Four years later, he backed and campaigned for the SWP presidential nominee Mel Mason, a former Black Panther, saying it was important for there to be "fundamental alternatives to capitalist ideology." During the campaign, Mason praised the Russian and Chinese revolutions and said: "The greatest example of a socialist government is Cuba, and Nicaragua is right behind, but it's still developing."
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Vox: Sanders supporters are annoying & antagonistic, so let him win, & Dems will magically get along [View all]
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
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I wish I had a dollar for everybody I know who swore they would vote for Trump if Bernie wins.
Zolorp
Jan 2020
#1
Yeah, it's that sort of reaction from Sanders and his supporters that makes them terrified of him
Zolorp
Jan 2020
#13
SWP's position on Iran is part of what distinguishes it from democratic socialist groups.
MrsCoffee
Jan 2020
#58
Sanders was an elector for the SWP, though he wasn't a member. And the SWP is a Trotskyist group
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#18
Again, according to the info I just found, he was on the ballot as a presidential elector, and not
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#29
I agree Sanders can't very well deny his association with the SWP, since he was an elector for them
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#31
The large number doesn't change that. It's just a very large group of self-selected voters.
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#74
I agree, some of his supporters I've seen on line can be outright rude. But there's not much a
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#2
Actually, since Sanders is held in such high regard by his noisiest supporters, he'd probably
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#9
Sure, if you want to alienate voters, call them out on their behavior. Especially since probably
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#16
Alienate voters?! Really...what do you think he did on stage following the debate?
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#38
Please do not speak for women everywhere, I happen to be one and you don't speak for me.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#41
Please don't even use the word Nazi in a sentence referring to Bernie Sanders.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#35
Biden supporters do not hate the Democratic party. Biden supporters do not...
NurseJackie
Jan 2020
#54
As a rule, I do not support any candidate who lies and smears the Democratic party...
NurseJackie
Jan 2020
#71
Key phrase "running as a democrat." It will be great when sanders goes home to VT
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#42
Trouble is Sanders won't win....it will be blowout. Vote for me or else...blackmail.
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#52
If he somehow managed to win, they'd turn on him as soon as he didn't deliver.
TwilightZone
Jan 2020
#59
The supporters of other candidates did not boo John Lewis, Elijah Cummings or Stacy Abrams
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#77
I saw far too much bad conduct by sanders supproters at the national convention
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#76