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highplainsdem

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29. Again, according to the info I just found, he was on the ballot as a presidential elector, and not
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:19 AM
Jan 2020

as the SWP candidate.

Joe Lockhart piece in CNN a few days ago:

http://m.cnn.com/en/article/h_b2b013b579c3336442a6c4f131303fdb


Let's start with what he calls himself (and the label Trump tries to stick to every Democrat): a socialist. There's no ducking this one -- Bernie has said a lot over the years, and a lot of it on camera. The Associated Press reports that in a 1983 reelection debate he said, "I am a socialist, of course, I am a socialist." The Washington Examiner reported last year that in 1980 and 1984, Sanders campaigned for the Socialist Workers Party. The report said that Sanders "proudly endorsed and supported" the Marxist group's presidential candidate, Andrew Pulley, in 1980. According to the report, in a press release, Sanders said, "I fully support the SWP's continued defense of the Cuban revolution."



From the Washington Examiner report Lockhart references there:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/bernie-sanders-campaigned-for-marxist-party-in-reagan-era


The 2020 Democratic presidential primary candidate and United States senator from Vermont, now 77, often scoffs at comparisons between his brand of self-described "democratic socialism" and communism. In recent years, he has said he is merely interested in having the United States look more like Sweden, a social democracy with a broad welfare state but a well-functioning private sector.

But his personal files from his time as mayor of Burlington, from 1981 to 1989, archived at the University of Vermont, show that he supported and campaigned for the communist SWP and maintained a close relationship with its senior members. While Democrats campaigned for President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Walter Mondale in 1984, Sanders spent the Reagan era supporting fringe Marxists with no chance of reaching the White House.

In 1980, Sanders "proudly endorsed and supported" Andrew Pulley, the party's presidential candidate, who once said that American soldiers should "take up their guns and shoot their officers." Sanders was one of three electors for Pulley on the Vermont ballot, stating in a press release: "I fully support the SWP's continued defense of the Cuban revolution."

Four years later, he backed and campaigned for the SWP presidential nominee Mel Mason, a former Black Panther, saying it was important for there to be "fundamental alternatives to capitalist ideology." During the campaign, Mason praised the Russian and Chinese revolutions and said: "The greatest example of a socialist government is Cuba, and Nicaragua is right behind, but it's still developing."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I wish I had a dollar for everybody I know who swore they would vote for Trump if Bernie wins. Zolorp Jan 2020 #1
"Everybody''? How many people do you know? YOHABLO Jan 2020 #6
Many Zolorp Jan 2020 #7
Interesting. And not terrified of Trump? That's insane and ignorant. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #10
Yeah, it's that sort of reaction from Sanders and his supporters that makes them terrified of him Zolorp Jan 2020 #13
Sanders is no Communist. He's a Democratic Socialist. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #15
Google Socialist Workers Party Zolorp Jan 2020 #17
I don't have to Google SWP. Bernie Sanders is not a Communist. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #20
He was a communist. It is documented. Zolorp Jan 2020 #23
No, he is not a communist. Talk about McCarthyism. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #39
SWP's position on Iran is part of what distinguishes it from democratic socialist groups. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #58
You should do some research into the SWP. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #61
Sanders was an elector for the SWP, though he wasn't a member. And the SWP is a Trotskyist group highplainsdem Jan 2020 #18
Sanders ran as the Socialist Workers Party candidate on more than one occasion. Zolorp Jan 2020 #22
Again, according to the info I just found, he was on the ballot as a presidential elector, and not highplainsdem Jan 2020 #29
SWP candidate then, Democratic candidate now. Zolorp Jan 2020 #30
I agree Sanders can't very well deny his association with the SWP, since he was an elector for them highplainsdem Jan 2020 #31
Unlike in 2016, he is being vetted now. Zolorp Jan 2020 #32
They chose him to be on the ballot, he did not run as their candidate. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #62
He accepted it gladly. Zolorp Jan 2020 #70
There are more independents than either Democrats or Republicans pnwmom Jan 2020 #44
Not according to Morning Consult. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #63
Oh great. He outperforms IN POLLS among people unlikely to vote. nt pnwmom Jan 2020 #65
AND self-described independents. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #67
link? pnwmom Jan 2020 #68
Here you go. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #69
That's an online, self-selected, panel poll -- not a probability poll. pnwmom Jan 2020 #72
Polling democractic primary voters. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #73
The large number doesn't change that. It's just a very large group of self-selected voters. pnwmom Jan 2020 #74
You wouldn't count a dollar for me. Blue_true Jan 2020 #84
It doesn't matter to me who wins Zolorp Jan 2020 #85
His extreme online supporters? squirecam Jan 2020 #86
He's my absolute last choice. Zolorp Jan 2020 #89
I agree, some of his supporters I've seen on line can be outright rude. But there's not much a vsrazdem Jan 2020 #2
Actually, since Sanders is held in such high regard by his noisiest supporters, he'd probably highplainsdem Jan 2020 #9
Sure, if you want to alienate voters, call them out on their behavior. Especially since probably vsrazdem Jan 2020 #16
Alienate voters?! Really...what do you think he did on stage following the debate? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #38
Please do not speak for women everywhere, I happen to be one and you don't speak for me. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #41
I'm one too and I'm pissed. Right here next to you. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #57
That's what Republicans asked of Trump regarding his NAzi supporters. Zolorp Jan 2020 #25
Please don't even use the word Nazi in a sentence referring to Bernie Sanders. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #35
Where did I say "Bernie Sanders" in my post? Zolorp Jan 2020 #37
"referring to Bernie Sanders" vsrazdem Jan 2020 #45
I never referred to Sanders Zolorp Jan 2020 #49
Same goes for Biden supporters. Rudeness can be spread all over. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #12
Biden supporters do not hate the Democratic party. Biden supporters do not... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #54
This - a million times, this!!! Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #55
I couldn't agree more. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #66
As a rule, I do not support any candidate who lies and smears the Democratic party... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #71
You mean squirecam Jan 2020 #87
I don't see any articles talking Cha Jan 2020 #80
I know. No candidate can monitor social media at all times. Malmsy Jan 2020 #83
What about squirecam Jan 2020 #88
LOL!! peggysue2 Jan 2020 #3
Kind of like the PUMAs were. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #19
Yes, whataboutism is always a strong counter argument peggysue2 Jan 2020 #24
It seems to be used quite a bit around here. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #34
PUMAs were an incredibly small number of supporters of Hillary in 2008 Zolorp Jan 2020 #26
Well, the media loves a good dust up story. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #36
Sorry, your attempt at distracting from the OP is NOT Cha Jan 2020 #81
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #4
. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #5
Wow. That gif. Zolorp Jan 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #14
That, to coin a new phrase: OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #8
Sanders isn't going to be the nominee evertonfc Jan 2020 #21
Will he support Biden though? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #78
I am definetly NOT a bernie supporter.... chillfactor Jan 2020 #27
It's harmonious compared to DU in 2016 RandySF Jan 2020 #28
It's still early enough.... SergeStorms Jan 2020 #33
Key phrase "running as a democrat." It will be great when sanders goes home to VT Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #42
+1000 Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #40
That's priceless. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #43
Something like that. David__77 Jan 2020 #46
His supporters here are fine BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #53
the author claims young people are more "obnoxious." David__77 Jan 2020 #47
I don't trust an important section of his supporters Recursion Jan 2020 #48
Dumb. The obnoxious ones reflect Sanders and are a small minority. Hortensis Jan 2020 #50
I've stopped reading Vox janterry Jan 2020 #51
Trouble is Sanders won't win....it will be blowout. Vote for me or else...blackmail. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #52
Yeah, fuck that noise. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #56
If he somehow managed to win, they'd turn on him as soon as he didn't deliver. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #59
This is helpful? redqueen Jan 2020 #60
As are supporters of every candidate. Iggo Jan 2020 #64
The supporters of other candidates did not boo John Lewis, Elijah Cummings or Stacy Abrams Gothmog Jan 2020 #77
IOW, get bullied into supporting Sanders by his more cultish followers? Blaukraut Jan 2020 #75
I saw far too much bad conduct by sanders supproters at the national convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #76
I think Iglegias is way Misguided & Cha Jan 2020 #79
A lot of people boomer_wv Jan 2020 #82
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