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In reply to the discussion: Laurence Tribe, the Constitutional law prof at Harvard, has concerns about Bernie. [View all]Gothmog
(176,828 posts)70. Denial is not just a river in Africa
In the real world, such high negatives mean that you are unelectable. I like living in the real world where numbers matter. trump has a ton of oppo to drive sanders' negatives even higher without any significant amount of work.
sanders will not be the nominee and if sanders is the nominee, trump will pick 45+ states. sanders is not electable in the real world and no amount of advertising will help. Remember sanders out spent Clinton 2 to 1 in New York and California and still got crushed.
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How will sanders become the nominee with little or no support from African American voters??? You do know that African Americans are a key block in the party??? I was a delegate to the national convention for Clinton and I saw how sanders acted at the national convention. There was a planned stunt by the sanders campaign/delegates to boo Congressman John Lewis. The Clinton campaign had a great "whipping infrastructure" in place and so I was warned about this planned stunt 20 to 30 minutes in advance. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this stunt and declined. My whip was working for the DNC during the midterms and is still on a private face book group for Clinton national delegates.
I suspect that this will be an issue in South Carolina and that there will be ads on the Lewis stunt if sanders makes it to Super Tuesday. If you want to have fun, do a search on twitter with these search terms "sanders boo John Lewis" and read the responses. There are good reasons why sanders cannot get non-whites to show up at his events.
I am amused that sanders supporters seem to think that sanders has this nomination locked up when there are so many real democrats who remember what sanders did to help elect trump and who have long memories. These real democrats will not forgive or forget.
Get ready for more oppo research to drop on sanders and we will see what happens. I will support the nominee of the party but I will be working hard to make sure that sanders is not the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Laurence Tribe, the Constitutional law prof at Harvard, has concerns about Bernie. [View all]
pnwmom
Apr 2019
OP
We're all better off vetting everybody during the primaries, and not waiting till the general.
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#2
Will Prof.Tribe soon find himself looking up at the underside of a bus chassis?
The Velveteen Ocelot
Apr 2019
#3
Environmental dumping, taxes, Russian support in 2016, wife's college funding issues,
allgood33
Apr 2019
#76
We need look into candidates who are friendly to big pharna and Betsy Devos.
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#103
No one in the media took sanders seriously and so sanders has never been vetted
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#15
Jesus Christ. The BRUISING on his face! That was one hell of a head strike.
Maru Kitteh
Apr 2019
#271
I say no problem. People like Bernie and his policies and he's running against a neo nazi
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#109
In my experience, one can argue with a Berniebot, but you can't reason with one.
WheelWalker
Apr 2019
#163
What makes me want to "leave the room and puke" is his praise for Fidel's "Revolution"
Maru Kitteh
Apr 2019
#272
Actually, that's true. That's why the 24 whistleblowers leaked their own letter.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#166
sanders was not vetted by the press and the Clinton campaign treated sanders with kid gloves
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#23
Biden and a couple other candidates would also beat sanders with African American voters
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#102
LOL Sanders was a light weight in civil rights movement and cannot compare to John Lewis
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#120
Right, we have Bernie Sanders who was involved with civil rights movement to the point that he
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#123
It always amazes me that Senator Sanders refused to vote against Governor Wallace
KitSileya
Apr 2019
#190
I won't watch videos of Cenk Uygur or The Young Turks. First, for years he, as a native of Turkey..
George II
Apr 2019
#146
Wow! Thanks for that background info on Cenk. He's a real piece of work, ain't he?
NurseJackie
Apr 2019
#149
"My brand shares a name with a genocidal movement, but it's too late to change it."
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#174
Apparently, Cenk's default position is to deny the existence of all sorts of stuff.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#178
There is a difference between shooting the messenger and not trusting the messenger.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#195
Fans of civil rights icon BS repaid the "slight" by trolling and ultimately booing Lewis
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#197
That's exactly the point. Lewis NEVER said Sanders wasn't in Alabama back then (he wasn't)....
George II
Apr 2019
#200
Isn't that tweet from the person BS hired to help craft his national message?
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#227
42% of Vermont voters favored Hallquist in October according to local reports.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#199
My apologies...that 42% was Hallquist's number as reported by the local press.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#215
Did anyone from Vermont (besides Sen Leahy) offer to raise funds with Hallquist?
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#221
I saw that you posted a picture and I was hoping to see some on white attendees
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#205
I am still waiting for pictures or video of non whites attending a sanders event
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#204
Cenk Uygur IS "The Young Turks"! He was born in Istanbul and for years denied the existence...
George II
Apr 2019
#171
"When the black leadership doesn't have their thumb on the scale" - what does that mean? And....
George II
Apr 2019
#128
What did he DO, not what did he say? I don't see anything specific that he did, like....
George II
Apr 2019
#133
I know that, but we keep hearing from Sanders surrogates that he was against the 1994....
George II
Apr 2019
#144
No. I heartily disagree. That is not factually correct or fair. It's wrong and misleading.
Jarqui
Apr 2019
#238
BS voted for versions of the Crime Bill that did not contain the assault weapons ban.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#239
BS claimed that he voted for the Crime Bill because it included an assault weapons ban.
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#254
I think we have to deal with one thing at a time because you're having a problem
Jarqui
Apr 2019
#255
Why did you post links to right wing sources that disputed the honesty of fact checkers
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#240
The story you reference, first published in September 2016, was exclusive to The Daily Caller .
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#245
Why are you alleging corruption on the part of Politifact and the Democratic general election
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#248
Biden wrote, sponsored, and achieved enactment of the Violence Against Women Act...
lapucelle
Apr 2019
#234
I thought he's been a leader in the Senate? Leaders write and introduce legislation....
George II
Apr 2019
#138
Impressive. Twenty eight years, six bills passed, during only three sessions (2/102, 1/109, 3/113)
George II
Apr 2019
#148
What would you use as a "yardstick", anything of substance? By the way, it's a well known fact....
George II
Apr 2019
#157
As you should know, there are a whole bunch of procedural or insignificant votes
Jarqui
Apr 2019
#162
Not being a member of the Democratic Party is his choice, he hasn't been barred from joining....
George II
Apr 2019
#223
"Not being a member of a party hasn't hindered him from introducing or co-sponsoring bills."
Jarqui
Apr 2019
#231
I am hoping that sanders stays in long enough to have to go before a newspaper editorial board
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#108
Your photos are small section of the crowd. View the large photo that shows the entire crowd.
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#267
One of my Biggest Concerns About Bernie is his Vote for Blanket Immunity for Gun Manufacturers
dlk
Apr 2019
#30
I look back at some of Joe Bidens votes like that 2005 Bankruptcy bill that he championed
CentralMass
Apr 2019
#115
I can't stand Sirota, but if Biden is really saying that Social Security can only be saved
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#40
That was from back when Sirota said he "wasn't working for Sanders" when he really was.
George II
Apr 2019
#142
True. Bernie's message is resonating and that scares the shit out of Tribe
Power 2 the People
Apr 2019
#63
Lawyers argue cases for their clients' interests, not their personal ideology.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Apr 2019
#86
Non-sequitur.This topic was about Mr. Tribe and his electioneering. Not Sanders tax returns.
Power 2 the People
Apr 2019
#88
You said Tribe is not liberal because he defended a corporation in court,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Apr 2019
#91
Tribe believes in the "corporations are people doctrine." That is not liberal nor progressive.
Power 2 the People
Apr 2019
#94
You are misrepresenting Laurence Tribe's opinion on Citizens United.
Power 2 the People
Apr 2019
#96
That isn't the same as arguing the logic was correct, and Tribe's analysis is more nuanced
The Velveteen Ocelot
Apr 2019
#98
Nothing being hidden. Looking forward to 10 years being released after tax day.
Power 2 the People
Apr 2019
#83
Right. If he doesn't think he made enough charitable donations or whatever, dump them
pnwmom
Apr 2019
#159
Yes. I grew up about 2 miles from where he did in Brooklyn (he's only 7 years older than me)....
George II
Apr 2019
#179
There is an agenda out there to make sure no Democrat wins and it aint just from cons
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2019
#252
