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eilen

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21. I know... For us over 50 crowd... we remember the boat people.

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:37 AM

Feb 2020

It was a humanitarian disaster. Cubans taking their chances on the open sea in small boats rather than face Castro's soldiers. Remember that little boy- who's mother died and Bush sent him back?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Castro? Jesus Christ, CASTRO, Bernie? [View all] nolabear Feb 2020 OP

These are the things that will kill us. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2020 #1

He's not rationalizing Castro. He's speaking the truth. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #2

No he's not, he's picking out the good to rationalize the net bad. Like saying Dahmer had a dog uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4

The Cuban revolution actually did some great things for Cubans. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #6

Deflection, we're talking about net good vs net bad and you understand that. just stop uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7

I will not stop supporting the truth. Even if it pains you. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #9

There's deflection and false equivalencies here. Fuck dictatorships, simple analysis there. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #11

It was a miserable dictatorship but also massively helped the poor and rural. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #12

Again, fuck a dictatorship ... nothing "complex" about that. Dahmer had a dog that doesn't make him uponit7771 Feb 2020 #13

Did Sanders claim Castro was a "net good person"? Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #16

... neither did Trump say the words "quid pro quo" so that makes it OK right?!?! REALLY ?!!? uponit7771 Feb 2020 #22

Ah, I see you can't stay in topic. Goodnight. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #23

US has a long history of supporting dictators JonLP24 Feb 2020 #44

The person not the concept, fuck this is scary uponit7771 Feb 2020 #80

The Rs are not going to care about nuance or complexity mcar Feb 2020 #81

+1, and I just heard about Sanders voting record on guns. How are young people supposed to ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #82

It's odd to me, and frightening, mcar Feb 2020 #83

The "bern-splain" on guns is Sanders record is bad with the NRA as if that erases his decades uponit7771 Feb 2020 #85

The NRA gives him a D- for fuck's sake. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #88

NRA ratings mean nothing uponit7771 Feb 2020 #90

Well if you are going to say he supports guns rights, it does. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #92

NRA is a hack organization who's ratings mean nothing, you know that uponit7771 Feb 2020 #93

Is that because the NRA has Biden and Sanders at the same level? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #95

LOL awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #127

So, tell me something good about safeinOhio Feb 2020 #24

"There's deflection and false equivalencies here." blue-wave Feb 2020 #29

+1, omfg ... "he helped the poor" WTF ?!!? This is some mil spec rat f kin going on here. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31

Yep - we need simple answers - for a simple time. el_bryanto Feb 2020 #91

Yeah dictatorships isn't a good answer to anything uponit7771 Feb 2020 #94

Castro promised all those good things to the poor True Blue American Feb 2020 #42

You very correct riverbendviewgal Feb 2020 #64

On a cruise in 2000 True Blue American Feb 2020 #66

Did the same in Russia. Toured and visited some great stuff, ignored breadlines, treatment of emmaverybo Feb 2020 #107

I didn't catch it. Was there any facts mixed in with the truth? fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #8

It's scary, some are intimating a dictatorship is net good because the poor where helped ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15

No, I'm not. I never once said a dictatorship is good in any way. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #18

But you were defending the "Cuban Revolution" blue-wave Feb 2020 #33

The poor were not helped. True Blue American Feb 2020 #43

The average voter (and we need a LOT of them) Cosmocat Feb 2020 #53

Here's someone who doesn't understand how electoral politics work.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #72

Twisting a candidate's intent by extremist absolutes to bash Bernie now are we? lambchopp59 Feb 2020 #27

K&R, that's why I asked if there's a path without Florida cause it gone ... zip nada uponit7771 Feb 2020 #3

Castro was never cool Democrats Ascendant Feb 2020 #5

Just needed to add: Democrats Ascendant Feb 2020 #10

Castro and Ortega. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #14

A lot of us older folks DO remember Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #17

Please don't insult an entire generation of young Americans Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #19

Ah, the prospect of the glorious youth vote Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #32

Oh Please! blue-wave Feb 2020 #34

I grew up and lived in Florida from 1961 to 1987 ms liberty Feb 2020 #52

So is "OK Boomer" but we hear it all the time anyway Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #73

"Generation Tellytubbies" 😂 Duppers Feb 2020 #35

Count me in. True Blue American Feb 2020 #45

Ok history time. redixdoragon Feb 2020 #20

Thanks, just like safeinOhio Feb 2020 #28

More History Time blue-wave Feb 2020 #37

And even more history in video blue-wave Feb 2020 #38

Nothing was returned. True Blue American Feb 2020 #46

No lands were returned to ANY other than the dictator class Cubans...rich Casto Cubans AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #128

I know... For us over 50 crowd... we remember the boat people. eilen Feb 2020 #21

On that, Elian Gonzales True Blue American Feb 2020 #47

That's BS....entirely BS....on 57 ways... AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #129

Are you telling me True Blue American Feb 2020 #133

I understand the Law...100% I also know the BS propaganda that was being AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #135

Then you know Reno True Blue American Feb 2020 #136

Trump says he's "in love" with Kim Jong-un. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #25

I can't stop thinking about how he said that a JFK/Nixon debate when he was in betsuni Feb 2020 #26

+1 Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #70

Well, there goes Florida. I'd love to put people in touch with my brother's wife who was sent here NBachers Feb 2020 #30

Were there no orphanages tens of miles away? PTWB Feb 2020 #98

The Library of Congress will fill in the blanks for your snide and ignorant comment, if you care NBachers Feb 2020 #103

I'm not sure why you're upset. As Cuba is so close to the United States, your comment ... PTWB Feb 2020 #114

I'm not concerned about Castro JonLP24 Feb 2020 #36

When you're explaining you're losing redstateblues Feb 2020 #132

Buh bye Florida... Sugarcoated Feb 2020 #39

Only about a million Cuban Americans in Florida blue-wave Feb 2020 #40

The older generation were Republican True Blue American Feb 2020 #48

So what are you saying? blue-wave Feb 2020 #50

I am saying True Blue American Feb 2020 #54

Cuba asked for nuclear missiles to be put there tirebiter Feb 2020 #41

we have had a very long history of screwing Cuba ,Central & South America not to mention the yaesu Feb 2020 #49

Pretty simple ouija Feb 2020 #51

Simpler than that. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #134

Please ouija Feb 2020 #137

You said it! True Blue American Feb 2020 #55

Obama praising Cuba's education system JonLP24 Feb 2020 #56

Were there any hair-on-fire freakouts about that? redqueen Feb 2020 #61

No because he gave caveats, had never been associated with socialists, except among emmaverybo Feb 2020 #108

Good points, but given his place in the race it's probably time redqueen Feb 2020 #109

His place is that he has won one caucus and one primary. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #113

That's funny because for months we were all reading here about how Biden was the leader redqueen Feb 2020 #115

Yes. He led in polls for nearly a year. Given his accomplishments, qualifications, experience, and emmaverybo Feb 2020 #117

All of which does nothing to explain why we were bombarded with "Biden is the leader" for months, redqueen Feb 2020 #118

He was the leader in polls, nationally and state by state. Given his unmatched resume, yes, many emmaverybo Feb 2020 #119

And now Bernie is leading in most polls - national and state. redqueen Feb 2020 #120

Indeed. He is the leader in most polls. Many still feel, however, that he is not electable in emmaverybo Feb 2020 #122

Do feelings determine who's the leader? redqueen Feb 2020 #124

I was proud of Obama for this democrattotheend Feb 2020 #97

In 1961 my friend Guido snuck out of his LSU dorm room before dawn, Croney Feb 2020 #57

As always, Sanders will get to skate on this and the downballot Dems will catch the shitstorm. Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #58

+1000 ehrnst Feb 2020 #59

President Sanders has promised to govern as the leader of the Democratic Party. What more you want?! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #62

Bs also promised to release his medical records and hasn't... Alliepoo Feb 2020 #65

1. Isn't it a bit premature to call him "President" already? Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #69

1. No. 2. So? 3. Wrong! 3A. Okay, bye. 4. It's brilliant! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #71

Pray tell, how in the name of Christ Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #78

Sanders praising Cuba's education system - BAD Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #60

You might want to look at social media this morning. nolabear Feb 2020 #100

Oh because the right needs something that's a big weapon. And they don't have anything on anyone Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #102

You're projecting. I said nothing about anyone else. nolabear Feb 2020 #123

He was asked a question and answered it truthfully Tarc Feb 2020 #63

That doesn't make the millstone any lighter, does it? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #68

Fuck Castro and his "Revolution". IluvPitties Feb 2020 #67

I don't understand what's so hard about this for some folks Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #74

We're in trouble. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #75

Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #76

taught people to read..... Deero Feb 2020 #77

+1. The literacy rate in North Korea is 100% dalton99a Feb 2020 #84

I have a brother who lives in NJ riverbendviewgal Feb 2020 #96

This isn't about Julian is it? still_one Feb 2020 #79

The Best Healthcare In Latin America corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #86

lol HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #110

Since That Fact Bothers You, I Reply, "Bring It On" corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #121

I'll just leave this here: Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #87

Wonder how she feels about Trump saying he loves Kim Jung un? nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #99

Same way most of us feel, which is disgusted? Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #112

Trump says Putin and all kinds of dictatorships are great. Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #89

Y'all might want to look at social media this morning and all media today. nolabear Feb 2020 #101

And it's just the beginning. dalton99a Feb 2020 #104

Rep. Barbara Lee: "He led a revolution in Cuba that led social improvements for his people." David__77 Feb 2020 #105

To people who see everything in terms of tribal thinking, yes. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #106

Yes but you're a supporter. nolabear Feb 2020 #111

It's a see you later tom HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #116

It's 4 yrs old...I'm betting she would be saying differently Today... AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #130

Maybe. I don't know. David__77 Feb 2020 #131

Allow President Obama To Clarify corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #125

... Scurrilous Feb 2020 #126