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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: FFS! I am tired of reading this S*** [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)62. It certainly hasn't been obvious to everyone...
With the potential of a contested convention on the horizon for Democrats, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday staked out a notably different position on delegates during the ninth Democratic debate.
Asked if the candidate with the most pledged delegates should be the Democratic nominee even if that candidate did not have a majority of pledged delegates Sanders said, the will of the people should prevail, yes. The person who has the most votes should become the nominee.
It is the opposite of what Sanders and his campaign said in 2016, even after Hillary Clinton had secured the majority of pledged delegates.
The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party, Sanders said on May 1, 2016. And if those superdelegates conclude that Bernie Sanders is the best candidate, the strongest candidate to defeat Trump and anybody else, yes, I would very much welcome their support.
Asked if the candidate with the most pledged delegates should be the Democratic nominee even if that candidate did not have a majority of pledged delegates Sanders said, the will of the people should prevail, yes. The person who has the most votes should become the nominee.
It is the opposite of what Sanders and his campaign said in 2016, even after Hillary Clinton had secured the majority of pledged delegates.
The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party, Sanders said on May 1, 2016. And if those superdelegates conclude that Bernie Sanders is the best candidate, the strongest candidate to defeat Trump and anybody else, yes, I would very much welcome their support.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/20/bernie-sanders-pushed-contested-convention-2016-now-he-wants-avoid-one/
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Well, I sure hope so. Because if the superdelegates choose someone who didn't get the most votes,
DanTex
Feb 2020
#5
No. If 70% vote for someone else, then how does the guy with a 30% share get all the marbles.
Midnight Writer
Feb 2020
#40
30% is not the problem level, it is when you are talking 40% and especially higher
Celerity
Feb 2020
#47
THX. It's an important read.It also says supers only compromise 15% of DNC delegates. Here's more:
ancianita
Feb 2020
#78
re: "I read here today that all Super Delagates...are Corporate Lobbyist's."
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#83
And most of them prefer someone else. He's never broken 34% in raw vote totals. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#18
OK, but in this case, the voters do think that Bernie is the best candidate for the job.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#33
Ok, but polling shows that 65% of D's LIKE Sanders (even though he may not be their first choice)
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#75
Where do you get that? Your second link says 44% would be "very uncomfortable" with Bernie
pnwmom
Feb 2020
#133
Party insiders, yes. I gotta be honest, I do not understand the aversion to letting voters decide.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#17
it is not an aversion to letting voters decide. We have already voted in our primaries
yellowdogintexas
Feb 2020
#50
She is a *Republican*. She likes Republican things like tax cuts for rich people
DanTex
Feb 2020
#32
The goalpost move didn't work so now, a sad, despearate attempt at an ad hominem.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#61
Nice try at a goalpost move... we're talking about the Sanders campaign. Not their supporters.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#60
And the delegates should respect the electorate, and nominate whoever gets the most votes.
DanTex
Feb 2020
#35
On the first vote, all pledges delegates ARE required to respect the electorate that voted for them
AGeddy
Feb 2020
#37
"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#64
Nice try. Not re-litigating, reviewing. By your definition it's 'relitigating' to point out that HRC
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#66
2016 was a different circumstance, things happened, best to not re-litigate and move forward instead
DanTex
Feb 2020
#73
Getting desperate, Dan... Same candidate, 180 on their statements on the role of superdelegates.
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#89
Oh, okay. Do you object to your candidate being a super delegate? Or only the...
Hekate
Feb 2020
#42
Holy cow! Unhinged reaction!! Take a breath! Follow calm Mayor Pete!
Laura PourMeADrink
Feb 2020
#15
Already have. Bullies can't take their own medicine. Don't you agree?
Laura PourMeADrink
Feb 2020
#124
Really, it's just one guy honing his ability to be obtuse in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Squinch
Feb 2020
#77
That's true as well. He didn't like the idea of SD at all, but since that was the system,
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#122
BS is a superdelegate. He hired superdelegate Nina Turner to run his campaign.
lapucelle
Feb 2020
#126