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cstanleytech

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156. What I do not get is why he went back to being an Independent after he failed to

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:18 PM

Mar 2020

win the 2016 Democratic nomination if he was planning to try again in 2020.
By leaving he made it a lot harder for himself than it need to have been.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Major loss tonight for Bernie Sanders. [View all] Yavin4 Feb 2020 OP

Am feeling the Burn....the Biden Burn! n/t DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #1

Eugene Robinson in South Carolina PatSeg Feb 2020 #6

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17

Eugene Robinson also just said on MSNBC he didn't hear many good things said about Bloomberg.... Pachamama Feb 2020 #30

If Bloomberg cares about the party and the country, he would drop out. Same for Steyer. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #40

I completely agree.... Pachamama Feb 2020 #44

Is there any evidence that Bloomberg cares about "the party"? OrwellwasRight Feb 2020 #106

I forgot. He doesn't. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #116

It is quite interesting how he went from hero of the party to possibly a zero OrwellwasRight Feb 2020 #118

Well, he did commit to the Democratic party and officially registered as a Democrat aeromanKC Mar 2020 #152

Steyer just did. calimary Feb 2020 #111

Good man. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #117

And Claire McCaskill PatSeg Feb 2020 #61

That sounds great/ n/t MicaelS Feb 2020 #101

Cool Cool Cool! Cha Feb 2020 #133

I know!!! PatSeg Feb 2020 #136

Wait till Tuesday AmericanGraffiti Feb 2020 #2

Still doesn't refute my statement Yavin4 Feb 2020 #4

Not really. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #5

Bernie was never going to win SC AmericanGraffiti Feb 2020 #8

He was in a virtual tie this time last week! n/t Yavin4 Feb 2020 #11

We've seen before that early polls overestimated Bernie's support there mvd Feb 2020 #18

Where? Oh, you mean "Da pollz"! jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #122

The :Polls that were Touted around here.. they Cha Feb 2020 #135

Establishment firewall? What? LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #35

+ agree nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #77

Just curious, by "establishment," do you mean the African American vote? TomSlick Feb 2020 #36

+10000 emmaverybo Feb 2020 #43

Damn those AA voters for not knowing what's good for them! Hekate Feb 2020 #63

You know (or should know) what he meant rpannier Feb 2020 #115

That doesn't track. TomSlick Feb 2020 #119

My apologies. I re-read the above post rpannier Mar 2020 #137

If Bernie Sanders can't win SC - then he can't win the South, the Black Vote either Pachamama Feb 2020 #48

No Democrat is likely to win any state in the south. n/t Peregrine Took Feb 2020 #66

Not true. griffi94 Feb 2020 #82

this statement flies in the face of many Bernie arguments. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2020 #98

Bullshit. Obama won Florida both times he ran. GulfCoast66 Feb 2020 #112

So are you suggesting . . . markpkessinger Mar 2020 #153

Black Americans; famous for being the nation's "establishment." Codeine Feb 2020 #93

"Establishment firewall?" I suppose Obama in 2008 was just a fluke. catbyte Feb 2020 #94

Well if he can't win the AA vote that is the backbone of the Democratic Party dem4decades Feb 2020 #105

He can't win black voters. No Dem can win without black support. brush Feb 2020 #114

You call SC an "establishment firewall" and sport an MLK avatar... SidDithers Mar 2020 #140

Disagree rpannier Feb 2020 #113

BS was there three times just this week to campaign. lapucelle Feb 2020 #126

Congrats to Biden but still only 20 delegates projected mvd Feb 2020 #7

Biden got 20 at the top squirecam Feb 2020 #10

Depends on the margins, which are still unknown mvd Feb 2020 #15

The call was immediate. squirecam Feb 2020 #23

He'll get far more than the 20 mvd Feb 2020 #120

Biden is 8 delegates behind Sanders... ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #138

I still consider S.C. a tie. He won in the popular vote mvd Mar 2020 #142

Huh? ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #148

I thought Bernie would do better (25%+)... congrats to Joe on an impressive win. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #103

Its SC though and they tend to lean far more to the right and Biden is probably considered cstanleytech Mar 2020 #149

Sanders has gained very little in the way of Black voters and has not brought out new voters...he Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #24

And alienated lots of voters. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #29

I wonder what the Miami Latinos have to say about Sanders. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #38

He has done that. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #132

What I do not get is why he went back to being an Independent after he failed to cstanleytech Mar 2020 #156

100+ Black Writers and Scholars Endorse Bernie Sanders NJCher Feb 2020 #85

Given that there are many millions of black intellectuals, that's pathetic. NNadir Feb 2020 #89

are you in academia? NJCher Feb 2020 #91

You know... NNadir Mar 2020 #141

Yes, lets see what Tuesday brings.... Pachamama Feb 2020 #31

+1000 Peregrine Took Feb 2020 #65

I predict Super Tuesday is not going to be huge delegate gain for Sanders. honest.abe Mar 2020 #143

LOL. Enjoy the next three days! DanTex Feb 2020 #3

Bernie has to show the party that he is inevitable Yavin4 Feb 2020 #9

No he doesn't. He just needs to persuade voters to vote for him. DanTex Feb 2020 #14

Bashing Democrats is not a good strategy. As a lifelong Democrat Bernie has never done anything to redstateblues Feb 2020 #22

Well, Joe Biden hasn't done anything to win me over, either. DanTex Feb 2020 #25

If so, say goodbye to the House. Bernie and AOC will take care of that redstateblues Feb 2020 #37

I doubt it. Bernie's the best candidate to beat Trump. I don't see Joe holding up. DanTex Feb 2020 #42

Hoping for five. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #78

ROFLMAO NCProgressive Feb 2020 #79

Interesting response, hadn't thought of that angle before. DanTex Feb 2020 #80

Well, I've heard that before. ehrnst Feb 2020 #99

. TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #160

I'm planning on enjoying the entire month of March. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #13

LOL. Good luck with that! DanTex Feb 2020 #16

We are about to find out that most of the young supporters that came out TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #19

In South Carolina. Joe's got regional appeal, I'll give him that. DanTex Feb 2020 #27

+1000000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #33

March turned out tobe a great month for Joe Gothmog Apr 2020 #159

WooHoo! How bout Bernie's numbers with POC! redstateblues Feb 2020 #20

LOL. Joe has regional appeal in the south. Hope he enjoys his weekend. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

You mean the AA base of the party? squirecam Feb 2020 #26

I mean the south. Not all African American voters are the same, you know... DanTex Feb 2020 #28

Yes. The south. squirecam Feb 2020 #34

Yes. Biden is a strong regional candidate, like I said. Doubt he'll do very well outside the south. DanTex Feb 2020 #39

I believe that your doubts were answered. nt TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #161

TRUTH Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #32

"regional appeal" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #41

LOL. Nice try. DanTex Feb 2020 #45

I've never seen anyone call him a regional candidate before. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #54

Well, I guess we know different people... DanTex Feb 2020 #59

Indeed squirecam Feb 2020 #46

We will. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #127

And this was with help for Operation Chaos voting. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #12

Exactly DarthDem Feb 2020 #49

Per NBC exit poll, 7% were satisfied with Trump and 4% were "enthusiastic" about Trump. That's 11%! SunSeeker Feb 2020 #81

That shows how popular Biden really is. revmclaren Feb 2020 #52

I Believe That's Right DarthDem Feb 2020 #90

MSNBC says he's at 11% as of now, but it's early. He may get ZERO out of 54 delegates. Biden.... George II Feb 2020 #47

Per NBC exit poll, 7% were satisfied with Trump and 4% were "enthusiastic" about Trump. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #84

Nobody 'hates' Sanders. J_William_Ryan Feb 2020 #50

Some of my friends do - OhZone Feb 2020 #51

Is SC where republicans were going to vote for Bernie? keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #53

Allegedly, yes. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #57

Big Night For Biden Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #55

LOL!! See you on Tuesday CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #56

Here's the numbers coming on Tuesday. 7wo7rees Feb 2020 #73

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Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #60

HUH? blue-wave Feb 2020 #62

Do not gloat when your opponent falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #64

Does that apply to the Sanders supporters over the past few weeks? bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #67

This x 1000. eom tarheelsunc Feb 2020 #71

HUH? blue-wave Feb 2020 #123

Sanders people really need to be looking at the other progressive in the race relayerbob Feb 2020 #68

Too bad they declared war against her. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #74

Joe has a problem though. Several Million have already voted in Super Tuesday states Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #69

Only in California is there substantial early voting AGeddy Feb 2020 #72

Right now he's on the cusp for getting any delegates at all...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #70

"So far, he hasn't shown that he can move from an insurgency campaign to a clear leader." blue-wave Feb 2020 #75

Just to be clear he's still leading the delegates,!? DaDeacon Feb 2020 #76

Yes, currently Sanders 51, Joe 40, Pete 26: ucrdem Feb 2020 #83

Now 53, 43, 26 nt ucrdem Feb 2020 #130

We knew he'd probably lose in SC. Tuesday is coming up, so PatrickforO Feb 2020 #86

He's gone from grouchy to sulking again. Sparkly Feb 2020 #87

Bernie speakng in Virgina Beach SilasSouleII Feb 2020 #88

Maintaining 3 houses would stress me out too. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #92

124 Tarc Feb 2020 #96

Wait, Sanders had a heart attack and surgery for two stints in 2016 as well?!?!? ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #139

Bernie cannot form a coalition, really inspire a movement. bitterross Feb 2020 #95

While this is a lose angrychair Feb 2020 #97

WA? Hadn't heard that captain queeg Feb 2020 #104

Not a whole lot of polling angrychair Feb 2020 #108

Nonsense. mahannah Feb 2020 #100

Bernie's Bill 97 TRILLION zak247 Feb 2020 #102

I disagree Buzz cook Feb 2020 #107

See you on Tuesday peoli Feb 2020 #109

Let's check back on Wednesday n/t ejbr Feb 2020 #110

More addition by subtraction grantcart Feb 2020 #121

I've said for a week bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #124

This is what I am talking about. Thank you. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #129

The moderate republican women in my book club in AZ Olafjoy Feb 2020 #125

Warren calling Bernie Sanders a massive failure. Fails to get things passed Gothmog Feb 2020 #128

Good! betsuni Feb 2020 #134

Because he can only lead a movement--his--the revolution. So what is his message for emmaverybo Feb 2020 #131

I simply can't support anyone who opposes the Democratic Party the same as they oppose the GOP... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #144

I'm not crying any tears for Bernie. Progressive dog Mar 2020 #145

sanders supporters are upset Gothmog Mar 2020 #146

Then it's time for Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar to step up! BComplex Mar 2020 #147

you guys are really that scared of Bernie? krakfiend Mar 2020 #150

An insurgent often does not lead well bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #151

Bernie could destroy Biden in Cali sellitman Mar 2020 #154

Joe was projected to win S. Carolina. Joe won S. Carolina. So this shows that Bernie johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #155

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