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denem

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13. 27 July 1945: Britain is a socialist country
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020

On the first day of the new parliament, Labour members sang the socialist anthem the Red Flag.
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2011/may/26/guardian190-labour-victory-1945

The 1945 Labour Party Manifesto
The Labour Party is a Socialist Party, and proud of it. Its ultimate purpose at home is the establishment of the Socialist Commonwealth of Great Britain - free, democratic, efficient, progressive, public-spirited, its material resources organised in the service of the British people.
https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/111lab.html

We have an example of a Democratic Socialist, not Social Democratic government. Clement Attlee's
Labour government 1945-51. It is simply incorrect to say that Democratic Socialism is about doing away with Capitalism altogether - that was never the Labour project. If post war UK Labour was not Democratic Socialist, the word has no meaning. There was mass nationalization of the means of production and services.

The difference between Social Democracy, and Democratic Socialism, is that the former manages industry and services by regulation, the latter by public ownership.

Capitalism and publicly owned entities can live side by side, to their mutual benefit. There is no imperative to completely abolish private enterprise. That's a straw man.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Because Trump is never logical or rational? at140 Mar 2020 #1
Think about it. Put out a narrative that the Russians and and tRump want Sanders to win. Do you. CentralMass Mar 2020 #2
If that's the strategy, why not show Biden some love, too? scrabblequeen40 Mar 2020 #3
You go with that then. CentralMass Mar 2020 #6
Not a fact that Trump prefers Bernie Sanders. Bluepinky Mar 2020 #4
better question: why does Bernie accept Trump's defenses? scrabblequeen40 Mar 2020 #7
Bernie should shut them down if he's not. Bluepinky Mar 2020 #10
His incorrect self-labelling as a dem soc is maddening, as allows all the RW commie commie smears to Celerity Mar 2020 #9
27 July 1945: Britain is a socialist country denem Mar 2020 #13
The UK did nationalise vast swathes of the means of production, and it ultimately was a disaster. Celerity Mar 2020 #15
Again - really useful stuff on the DSA, & US socialists. denem Mar 2020 #16
lol, first time I have seen Marks & Sparks used on this board! Celerity Mar 2020 #19
Again - really useful stuff on the DSA, & US socialists. denem Mar 2020 #17
Occam's Razor nt relayerbob Mar 2020 #5
He does it because he knows he can elicit reactions like your post here from people that fall PoliticAverse Mar 2020 #8
It comes down to what smear they'd rather run Bucky Mar 2020 #11
... greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #12
Reverse reverse psychology?? Raine Mar 2020 #14
Because he thinks it'll be a cakewalk running against a "Socialist" budkin Mar 2020 #18
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