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Hortensis

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18. "Internecine nightmare." I don't think we have to worry about
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:11 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

him pushing MfA in the senate in opposition to improving the ACA. He's a self-disimpowered caucus of one.

I am wondering if he's now addicted to national attention and also how he'll regard the future of his socialist revolution. He is getting votes. Otoh, he spent 25 years mostly vegging in congress, just doing whatever he needed to keep his gold-ring job. He might just return to his previous pattern of badmouthing Democratic legislation, voting for it, then returning to badmouthing it, but with an attention and devoted audience for his remaining years that he never had before.

Apparently a lot more people are on to him than we realized, though. How contemptible is that to refuse to support better coverages and lower premiums for the ACA because they'd undermine support for destroying and replacing it?

Even if possible, and not an almost insanely dysfunctional choice Democrats in congress would rightly refuse, it'd have taken at hopeful minimum another 8 years after he took office to make happen, during which time a number of elections and potential power shifts would take place, and of course many legal attempts to destroy all and parts of it, some successful.

All the while, Sanders would be trying to keep the necessary enthusiasm for MfA pumped up by sabotaging the ACA.

I'm looking forward to all the carefully researched books that will dig into motives and much more. From the safety of my armchair in a stabilized society, of course. But this dangerously reactionary transitional era is a wonderful gift to historians and researchers into the psychology of mass movements, extremism, etc. It'll be fascinating to view what we're going through with the insights of the future. Once we're safe past.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
And, what's that post saying "BS shouldn't get pressured Cha Mar 2020 #1
Unless he drops out soon, it's clear he is hoping Trump wins. tritsofme Mar 2020 #2
Spot on! blue-wave Mar 2020 #3
I don't see how e continue to give him the benefit of doubt. showblue22 Mar 2020 #6
I never did.. ever. Cha Mar 2020 #22
I've been saying that was my hunch. Some ppl said it was extreme. onetexan Mar 2020 #11
It would bring into question his votes on sanctions, not disclosing he knew Russia was helping him, MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #16
Not only hoping, but insuring. nt jrthin Mar 2020 #30
Taken out of context videohead5 Mar 2020 #4
It doesn't stop Bernie from showing that to his supporters. TODAY. showblue22 Mar 2020 #5
he lost because he didn't build Cha Mar 2020 #24
So you're saying that blue-wave Mar 2020 #7
Motives? Lol, no kidding. I've often wished political psychologists would Hortensis Mar 2020 #8
He's wanting to have the illusion of a single payer plan Aquaria Mar 2020 #9
Sure. Borrowing the label was marketing genius, so Hortensis Mar 2020 #15
What about the motives of his campaign staff? dansolo Mar 2020 #21
On, yes, I was wondering what's going on with them. Hortensis Mar 2020 #25
his programme is nothing like Medicare, he just stole the name for buy-in due to name recognition Celerity Mar 2020 #23
If you want go into deeper personal reasons then you'll have to examine the person. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #13
"Internecine nightmare." I don't think we have to worry about Hortensis Mar 2020 #18
I saw somewhere, I forget where now, a long discussion about Bernie's healthcare efforts.. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #19
Matt Taibbi, say no more. God! I think he was never very Hortensis Mar 2020 #20
Al Smith's epic 1928 promise to "Make your wet dreams come true" retrospectively hardest to top. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #32
Lol, I'd heard of "The Happy Warrior" slogan, but what Hortensis Mar 2020 #33
I'll get banned if I say what I think his motives are. Aquaria Mar 2020 #10
Won't make a morsel of difference at this point. ucrdem Mar 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #14
From who? Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #28
Wow. This is nothing I expected. lindysalsagal Mar 2020 #17
Bernie works for Trump. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #26
Yes, indeed. showblue22 Mar 2020 #27
Petty. betsuni Mar 2020 #29
These days Sanders reminds me of Howard Beale, from the movie Network. sop Mar 2020 #31
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