LynneSin
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Fri Jul-11-08 08:56 AM
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78. Anything else you'd like to assume about me - you really should stop that! |
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We have 4 months until the election and a shithole of a country that we're living in thanks to 8 years of the Bush Regime. We have an electorial process that was designed for the technology (or extreme lack of it) of 200+ years ago but not designed for today.
We have short term and long term. Short term is getting a democrat in the White House and that option is Obama. Now he already has an uphill battle with unfortunately the #1 issue with Obama is that he is of a skin color that certain people won't vote for anyways (but then again they're redneck assholes they may not have voted for Hillary or a pasty old white man who has a "D" next to him). The last thing we need to do is find more ways to alienate voters in the next 4 months that could ultimately could lead us to McCain. And we know damn well that as long as McCain stays within a few points he can steal the damn thing too.
I see FISA as one issue that is completely separate from another issue of getting Obama in the White House. And personally I think our debate on FISA and getting this bill reversed should be debated in GD, an area where we can discuss the other shortfallings of the democratic party as a whole (Mind you I realize this one is in LBN, but trust me there are enough "OOO Obama is bad he voted for FISA" in GDP.) You claim I have little care about the constitution or that perhaps I'm just misguded over-zealous but guess what - YOU ARE ASSUMING AGAIN and you really should stop that because personally it does make you look stupid and btw, that wasn't an assumption.
I started this thread because I felt that Feingold, a major opponent of the FISA bill came out with what had to be said - don't let this bill drag down Obama and his chances to get elected (Ok that's not exactly what Feingold said but pretty much his purpose). But yet we're doing that all over the place on DU and not realizing that basically we're shooting ourselves in the foot. We're the ones that are impacting Obama on this FISA issue, not MSM, not Fox News, not anyone else. We're forming circular firing squads everytime we find something that makes Obama 'a little bit electable in our eyes'. We are the beautiful woman who stands in front of the mirror everyday who says "I'm not Pretty, I'm too Fat, I'm Ugly" and eventually we talk ourselves into becoming what we believe.
You want to bitch about FISA bitch and I'll even join in with you. But this is not a Presidential race issue, this is a democratic party issue. We here at DU (and I mean everyone) needs to talk about how we are going to fight these and just as Feingold said, the first thing we need to do is get Obama elected. If you're calling me misguided and over-zealous then you're calling Russ Feingold, liberal senator who was a major opponent against that FISA bill, the same exact thing. Because both of us are saying that we need to continue the fight with FISA AND we need to get Obama elected.
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