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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:52 PM
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14. Wow! That's quite a condemnation. But who is "we"? All of us? Idiot puppets
who get installed in power by the malevolent among us? You including scientists, teachers, artists, working people, kids, the poor? You including our next Einstein or our next Shakespeare? All the people who voted for Obama, or just the fuckwads of Diebold and brethren who shaved his mandate, and gave him a bunch of "Blue Dogs" and Pukes to muck things up?

I'm more optimistic than you, maybe because I've been an environmentalist for a long time, so I've done a lot of thinking about these things. I know we're losing the planet, but, hey, we are OF the planet. So, if we fail to turn things around, then that is the definition of intelligence on earth--it just couldn't make it to global consciousness quickly enough. But do we stop trying? That would be ignoble. Do we give up--because we have some truly difficult problems? No! But I'm also philosophical about it. We make it, or we don't make it. It is not a matter of "deserving" to survive as a species. It's a matter of...I don't know...something about our collective brains and creativity. We've been VERY creative at messing things up, for what most humans involved thought were good reasons--to have grain for seven years, and silos for the grain, and onto to automobiles and refrigerators and computers. We're very clever, but not very wise. Our cleverness outstrips our wisdom. Can our wisdom catch up? I don't know. But, I'll tell you, in my life span, I have seen an astonishing growth in global ecological consciousness. And I also see a lot of wisdom coming from other cultures than our own--for instance, the Ecuadorans just passed a new Constitution, with 65% of the vote, which grants Mother Nature ("Pachamama," in the indigenous) the independent right to exist and prosper, apart from human needs or impacts. That is quite an amazing development, and it comes from the rise of democracy in South America, in which the wisdom of indigenous farmers and tribes at long last has a voice. I don't know if you are doing this, but don't judge the entire human race by what you perceive of the particular problems we have here in the U.S. We are at the vortex of unconscious, powerful greed, and the panic of the rich. We are its epicenter. So quite a lot has been done to demoralize us, and strip us of our democratic power to lead progressive change. The unconscious greedy criminals who have been running things here want you to feel helpless and depressed. Don't give them the satisfaction! That is the human spirit, to my mind. Principled defiance! Be what you think is deserving. That's all we can do. And then maybe you will find that you are not alone.
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