Reply #12: truly an excellent post...thank you [View All]

[Douglas Carpenter]

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I don't know if it is possible to argue about who is more evil. The assumptions of ideology are always based on emotions and doctrine - never on facts. In politics--words like evil are almost always based on emotions and doctrine - never on facts. But there can be no question about who has caused the most suffering for humanity in the past and who is more likely to--and more in a position to--cause the most suffering for humanity in the future.

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"I think of war with Iran as the ending of America's present role in the world. Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it's still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we'll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Vanity Fair, 2006.