Reply #7: If it is easier, you can think of original sin this way. [View All]

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People are not perfect. And they all do some wrong and some right. There are parts of the Christian faith that talk about shame, and how cultural differences change sin, a big point of contention in Paul's letters versus strict observance of law.

Peter was more law orientated.

But the point is if you live in perfect love, you will not break the commandments. But since we are all flawed, we need sets of rules to protect us in our lesser moments.

Because groups did not have a rule set, either moral or legal, to protect themselves from crime, many people did crime in some of our current situations.

The moral authority of love can stop that, but so can law and enforcement for when a person fails to love.

If you are talking about Revelation, I try not to comment on that much because of what it says at the end of that chapter. If you give the chapter value, then you have to give the ending of it value.

There is a danger to making shame the problem, it can lead to burning up ones conscious, then there is no shame. But the conscious was given to correct problems a person thinks is wrong. It is possible that things can be added into law for a person to think wrong things that are not wrong for everyone. But still the need for a conscious, and the effects it can have, one of them shame, is important.

Many times the bad side will take joy God created away from people by making rules above what is necessary to live in the love of the spirit of God, many of those rules are for man's reason, or societal reasons, and so they can change as society changes. But some are laws of God that do not change.


If you believe a certain way about the supernatural, and have a few other beliefs, it can be explained like this. Although it is just the way I think about it, I did not learn it from any group of people.

If you think of sin as something real that creates compulsions in people. Then once a person gets in a pattern, it moves on, or keeps a person held back then you can see some of what happened. The scape goat is putting all the sin of a group on one animal, then running that animal out of town. That is not putting all the blame, but the actual spirits of sin into the animal.

In the same way, an animal can be sacrificed after sin was put into it, and the sin can be carried into death instead of in a living person.

So when Jesus was crucified, and he had in him the spirit of God which is the Alpha and the Omega and lives in all time, he became the sacrifice for all people, and took all of the sin past and present and future into death. So you can get rid of a spirit of sin from an action you do tomorrow because of Jesus being the lamb of God 2000 years ago. And then he was raised from the dead three days latter to prove he overcame death, unlike the sin he carries into death.

And before he was crucified, he taught the law of love, and the new covenant where if we are sincere and learn we can be forgiven, and move forward from a problem by ridding ourselves of those spirits of sin.

There are also spirits of light, part of the Body of Christ, that is one with the spirit of God, and they can help people, but people have to know when they are doing right and when it is a spirit trying to hurt a person, and that is not always easy for people to tell.