Reply #19: Matter of fact, he sounds a LOT LIKE CLARK [View All]

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Dean:

My problem is not whether we're going to end up in Iraq or not. Saddam Hussein appears to be doing everything he can to make sure we do go into Iraq. My problem is, it is important to bring in our allies.

Clark (Feb. 2003)

General Wesley Clark, a former Nato supreme commander and a potential Democratic candidate for president, told a Meet the Press programme on NBC that Saddam Hussein was "finished" and having gone so far, the US could not change its plans to remove him.
 
"We are at a turning point in America's history. We are about to embark on an operation that is going to put us in a colonial position in the Middle East following Britain."
 
It is a huge change for the American people and what this country stands for, he said.
 
The Bush administration, he said, has not respected its allies and that is why it finds itself without the support of many Nato allies and even in those countries prepared to support the US, public opinion is against the war. Iraq, could have been contained without war, he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=37738538

Both of them sound--excuse me for breaking the screaming zealot-purist decorum that now predominates on DU--like they're trying to speak honestly and realistically to the issue. They point out what is so fucked about the Bush position while admitting that there are facts on the ground that have to be confronted. Also known as Bush's most hated term: nuance. Something I USED to think DUers held in some esteem.

Josh Marshall:

Now, my point is not to say that Dean was some sort of war-hawk. Clearly, he was no friend of the president's policy. But then neither was John Kerry, and certainly not Wes Clark. So let's drop this idea that support for war under some circumstances and not others is some sort of waffling or dodge. Because if it is, then Dean isn't in the clear either.

Damn right and thanks, Josh.

And now, back to the screaming vitriolic bash fest, already in progress....