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[Silverhair]

The decision to use the bomb was not a uniform decision. It was indeed hotly debated. You picked the ones that were against the decision and have tried to say that ALL the field commanders were against it, then you list theatre commanders instead of field commanders. Do you know the difference? Obviously, some in the military were also in favor of it's use, or it would not have been used. It wasn't Truman's idea by himself.
So you statement that all field commanders were against is shown to be false.


You claim that we were wrong and barbaric to demand Unconditional Surrender. Considering the nature of the German, Italian, and Japanese governments and their actions during the war, I can only say that we have a most profound disagreement. Would you have allowed Hitler to remain in power? We didn't want Tojo in power either, and to get him out we had to have Unconditional Surrender.
You call us barbaric for that demand. Your hatred for America is showing.

Yes, the Emperor is still a position, but not the same that it was during the war. He had to relinquish his claim to being a God. And he had to take orders from us, until we has instituted a democratic gov't. The manner of their demand before their actual surrender would have kept the old arrangement of Emperor & his gov't. You somehow seem to be blind to that as I have explained the difference many times. You ignore it each time.

I will not dispute you figure of 200K total dead from the bombing as I don't have accurate information on that. Instead, I maintain that the coming invasion, plus the continuing fire bombing of Japanese cities would have cause a far greater number of fatalities. You agree with me that the fighting would have been desperate. It would have meant killing all Japanese, civilians too, while the fighting continued.

The invasion WAS scheduled for November. It would have happened. The casualties would have been immense.

I bought a book from Military Book Club, "Factories of Death" about ten years ago. So I already knew about what happened, and about the USA cover up. However, a cover up after the fact, however dispicable, does not prove the existance of a secret deal before the surrender. You have not proven your case. All that you have is a conspiracy theory, and I have made my disdain for CTs well known from other posts.

Repeating the critical point. We did not accept Japan's condition. We insisted that the Emperor take orders from us. Only AFTER they accepted that, did the war end. Accepting that was effective unconditional surrender.