Reply #31: I don't see them as identical..... [View All]

[BeachBaby]

and from the way people are duking it out, I would have to say that not too many other people see them the way you do, either.

I don't want to get this thread locked because it's GDP-related stuff, but I wanted to respond to your concern about Obama's views on gay marriage/civil unions.

At the risk of being absolutely obliterated for saying this.....his views on the subject of gay marriage/civil unions don't matter. I live in New Jersey. While under the watchful eyes of the Bush Administration, our Governor, John Corzine, signed legislation that permits civil unions which hold all the benefits and liabilities that marriage does. Just as it is with other "party line politics" such as abortion, capital punishment and alcoholic beverage consumption, all the President/Supreme Court can do is accept/reject on a FEDERAL level. After they make that decision, the states can react accordingly. This is why laws vary from state to state.

We have much bigger fish to fry, PelosiFan. Issues that most certainly affect an entire nation, not just state to state....such as an unjust war with the promise of new wars, a recession bordering on a depression, stifling oil prices, global warming, unemployment, NAFTA, healthcare, the list is endless. IMO, a military draft is also inevitable at this point. This country is at the end of its proverbial rope.

I cannot vote for someone who not only supported the Iraq war, but has recently stated that she would "obliterate Iran" if she felt the need. We need a complete overhaul of the last 8 years - we need someone who will strive to mend fences and gain a trust with our former allies; we need someone who is going to address the environmental issues with a passion; we need someone who is looking at the big picture of the nation's economy and striving to alleviate the financial pressure of the middle and low class citizens; we need someone whose goal is to bring peace worldwide; we need someone who has the ability to unite - not divide - a nation.

Obama's concern for this country is written all over his face. I like the fact that he makes a point of saying "we" and "us", instead of saying "me" or "I". I admire that he admits his weaknesses, and take comfort that he will search high and low to produce a cabinet that will be comprised of the best in each category, in order to help him achieve his goals. I like that he appears to see people as PEOPLE, instead of classifying by color, or creed, or financial status.

I am a white woman, strongly supporting a man who is just as much white as he is black. And if the only thing people can hold against him is his black minister - who in my opinion, says out loud what most of us are afraid to say out loud - then Hillary has alot of work to do in improving her credibility. Her attacks on Obama, her corporate interests in the health industry, her views on war, not to mention her hugely fabricated stories of coming under sniper fire, have only weakened it.