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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 02:31 PM
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20. You don't even know what the greenhouse effect is
Or if you do, you haven't managed to state it clearly in even one of your posts. Instead, you've dragged in some link from the Global Climate Coalition :eyes: from a 30-year old Newsweek to show that "the scientists" are wrong.

Do you think that our understanding of meteorology and climatology has declined in the last 30 years? Do you think that the global data-gathering net, both orbital and at the surface of the planet, is worse than it was back then? Do you think that computer models' accuracy has degenerated since 1975? If so, then you have my sympathy, but at least if these assertions were true, at least your arguments would have, oh, at least half a leg to stand on.

Or are you shocked, shocked that "the scientists" have been wrong? Well whoop-dee-doo. Let me issue you a ticket for the Clue Bus - scientists have been wrong in the past, and will be wrong in the future. However, the scientific concensus always moves on to incorporate new data and produces a better picture of the world after doing so. And the scientific concensus overwhelmingly supports the theory that human activity and increased GHGs are rapidly altering the planet's weather & climate patterns.

What you're doing is displaying a wilful and deliberate ignorance of decades of climate research, and thousands of reports from thousands of locations all over the planet stretching back for some 20 years. All these reports and studies and data provide a picture of indicators - temperature readings, frost dates, phenology inputs, species distribution, sea ice thickness, glacial retreat rates, rainfall, extreme weather events, atmospheric GHG content - which show that things are going haywire rapidly.

And against the flood of evidence, you boldly clutch your 1975 Newsweek article as proof that "the scientists" were wrong. Yeah, whatever.

Lots of luck connecting with reality in the years ahead, and have a nice day.
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